<tt>Ivan Krstić <krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu> schrieb am 14.05.2008 04:04:31: > On May 13, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Just make sure you read all the way through before trying to > > understand it. I needed to read it through twice as he is a very angry > > person and his anger seems to go at a lot of targets.. > > Do you feel that particular points were not properly supported or   > explained in the essay? </tt> <tt>I think it would make sense to start talking about what we actually would like children to learn or stop pretending that OLPC or Sugar is about education.</tt> <tt>Without a rough consensus about our educational goals we continue to have strange meta discussions about how to best improve education. While at same time having absolutely no consensus about what we actually want to improve.</tt> <tt> </tt> <tt>Both Windows and OS X can be used to improve teaching. But if your goal is to teach children how to write their programs (like RMS definetly wants too) using Windows is surely a step in the wrong direction. If your goal is to enable children to access things like Wikipedia or Youtube using Windows or OS X probably is a simpler way to go (that's actually what is done in Austria right now).</tt> <tt>For this reason I would like to urgue everybody to start talking about how to actually help children learning math, writing, physics, chemistry, biology, programming,… and not have one meta discussion about education after the other.</tt> <tt>cu andreas</tt> <tt>P.S.: Kudos to OLE Nepal. Epaati is terrific! </tt>