<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Last... message to Ivan et al... You say "Peru's first deployment module consisted of 40 thousand laptops... ...A number of the target schools are in places requiring multiple modes of transportation to reach, and that are so remote that they're not even serviced by the postal service..." Yes we have those places: 80,000 villages (from a total of 85,000) don't have communication with the "occidental" world. They are not integrated, they are forgotten towns were the diet is based just on potatoes most of the year and, depending on the specific towns, from 20% to 50% of the new born babies will not reach the 12 years old mark. "...Laptop delivery was going to be performed by untrusted vendors who are in a position to steal the machines en mass. There is no easy way to collect manifests of what actually got delivered, where, and to whom." What? I have to disagree with this info. Any place, any small village is very well known. They are far away, there is no bus to reach that place, sometimes there is not a road for cars, but all of them are very well known. They are isolated and forgotten but very well known. Some examples: a) Elections: every vote in the country is counted. All the votes count. All the smallest villages in Peru have election on the same day and in the same hours. All results travel, by the most unusual ways, by river canoe sometimes (in the jungle), by two or three days sometimes. But we know very well how to reach those towns. When I say "we" I mean the business companies, the army, the mining companies, the phone companies, the government, the church (both catholic and evangelic), the minister of health, the electricity companies (they travel around those forgotten towns with the huge energy towers... sometimes they install the big tower near a town but that town is not "big enough" or have "enough money" to pay for the energy that they can see travels around their lands. b) Just one example: banks and money in the worst terrorist years that we have seen (80's and 90's). All money from the remote cities needs to travel to the main banks in the capital city (Lima). The money from small villages in the middle of the jungle or in the highest mountain travel in the trucks of two of the most important "money transport companies" that we have here ("ProSegur" is the name of one of them). Gold (we produce Gold in many remote areas)... gold comes in trucks from those remote sites. All those trucks can bring all the XOs to all the places that you can imagine. I imagine that these truck companies can be interested in transporting the XOs as a way to get a good image in front of the general public (social business responsibility... that could be a reason). The army trucks can do the same: not one XO will be lost. c) All the teachers are registered, even the ones in the forgotten remote villages. All the school directors, regional educational directors, etc. Any business person, with a minimum logistic experience, can find a solution for all your deployment problems. You say... "but what the shit do I know about deployment?" Well, maybe that is just PART of the explanation of your experience. I ask myself what about all the peruvians that you have been in contact to build this deployment? No logistic experience? no business experience? No what?... maybe you can find the answer by yourself.... someone has told you about "..untrusted vendors..." and "... steal the machines in mass"... and "... no easy ways to collect manifests of what got delivered... where and whom...".... all the people that has given you that kind of information is responsible of misleading you. It is not your fault. I am surprised, totally in shock. Remenber WHO has told you these "facts". I don't think they are ignorant, there must be political reasons or maybe some of them can have their own agenda (some political reasons and some personal agendas are not all the time adjusted to what we can expect, sometimes goes against the law!) But, again, it is not your fault, you can not get these conclusions without the information that was given to you. Best regards, Javier Rodriguez Lima, Peru Ivan Krstić wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:B3E2ACC2-9E05-4692-AE97-C302DDB2D048@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu" type="cite">On May 13, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Just make sure you read all the way through before trying to understand it. I needed to read it through twice as he is a very angry person and his anger seems to go at a lot of targets.. </blockquote> Do you feel that particular points were not properly supported or explained in the essay? -- Ivan Krstić <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu"><krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu></a> | <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://radian.org">http://radian.org</a> _______________________________________________ Its.an.education.project mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Its.an.education.project@tema.lo-res.org">Its.an.education.project@tema.lo-res.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/its.an.education.project">http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/its.an.education.project</a> <pre wrap=""> <hr size="4" width="90%"> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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