*shipping* refers to what leaves the factory in China.<br><br>We do not *ship* anything without activities installed. <br><br>If you already have a build and you upgrade, you shouldn't lose your activities (that would be a bug if you did).<br> <br>If you do a 'cleaninstall' based on the old methods of cleaninstall, then you are liable to end up without activities... but you can add them back; so it shouldn't be the end of the world.<br><br>If you do want to do a cleaninstall, you should use the new method that will add the activities back with a second boot. <br> <br>Kim<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <<a href="mailto:mpgritti@gmail.com">mpgritti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:10 PM, C. Scott Ananian <<a href="mailto:cscott@laptop.org">cscott@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br> </div><div class="Ih2E3d">> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <<a href="mailto:mpgritti@gmail.com">mpgritti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >  >  Well, I think we should provide a set of default activities. And I<br> >  >  think those should include the educational ones. Shipping default<br> >  >  images with no activities on them doesn't send the right message<br> >  >  either, imo.<br> ><br> >  Dammit, why are we having the discussion again!<br> ><br> >  We do not *ship* any image or machine with no activities installed.<br> >  End of story.<br> <br> </div>People download 703 and install it on their XO or run it in the<br> emulator. And it's completely useless until they grab Bert script to<br> download the activities (or get them in some other way). I had to<br> guide someone through that process just yesterday and I can tell it<br> was really confusing him.<br> <br> But feel free to disregard the problem, if it makes you feel better.<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Marco<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________<br> Devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Devel@lists.laptop.org">Devel@lists.laptop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel" target="_blank">http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>