<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <<a href="mailto:mpgritti@gmail.com">mpgritti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Bryan Berry <<a href="mailto:bryan@olenepal.org">bryan@olenepal.org</a>> wrote:<br> > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 18:18 +0200, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:<br> >  > If I've learned any lesson in my years<br> >  > in Fedora, it's this: attempts to generate community are wasted if there<br> >  > is not an adequate architecture of participation to sustain that<br> >  > community.<br> ><br> >  Greg's absolutely right. It has been very difficult for volunteers to<br> >  get involved w/ OLPC for the last couple years. The learning curve is<br> >  very steep, esp. for less technical folks. I remember the hassles of<br> >  trying to get sugar-jhbuild running on my laptop 12 months ago, *the<br> >  suffering*.  It still is far too difficult to get involved in Sugar for<br> >  the reasons Greg pointed out.<br> ><br> >  It especially difficult for non-technical educators to get involved. We<br> >  need to work on lowering these barriers.<br> ><br> >  We would all love for kids to develop their own learning activities but<br> >  that just hasn't come to pass so far. We've been developing learning<br> >  activities w/ ETOys w/ the hope that kids could build upon our<br> >  activities and improve them. But the Squeak code gets complicated<br> >  quickly, and performance issues multiply like rabbits.<br> ><br> >  For now, We need to at least make it easier for software developers to<br> >  create activities w/in a short span of time.<br> <br> </div>Other than the build issues, which we are working on, what else do you<br> see as blocking/discouraging people to write activities? Lack of<br> documentation?<br> <font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div> <br>Personally, I think a 'sugary' port of Glade would be helpful, especially if it was integrated into something like the Develop activity.  It would lower the barrier for people wanting to develop python/gtk activities on the XO itself (think of the children!).<br> <br>- Bobby<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><font color="#888888"> Marco<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________<br> Its.an.education.project mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Its.an.education.project@tema.lo-res.org">Its.an.education.project@tema.lo-res.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/its.an.education.project" target="_blank">http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/its.an.education.project</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>