<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">If that is a question to me, I will choose to hold my tongue ... Cheers, Alan <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ---- From: "Andreas.Trawoeger@wgkk.at" <Andreas.Trawoeger@wgkk.at> To: Alan Kay <alan.nemo@yahoo.com> Cc: Education <its.an.education.project@tema.lo-res.org>; its.an.education.project-bounces@tema..lo-res.org Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 9:20:48 AM Subject: Re: [Its.an..education.project] Another set of thoughts <tt>Alan Kay <alan.nemo@yahoo.com> schrieb am 02.05.2008 15:33:50:</tt> <tt>> At the risk of trying to talk about education, here is another </tt> <tt>> little essay with a few observations...</tt> <tt>> </tt> <tt>> http://www.vpri.org/pdf/human_condition.pdf</tt> <tt>Personally I think one of the most fundamental question that is still waiting for an answer is: How are we going to teach 8-10 year old kids to become sysadmins?</tt> <tt>Sugar is great and it is about to become a wonderful environment to do any form of collaborative work. But it┬ also one of the most complex and challenging systems I have seen to date from a sysadmin perspective.</tt> <tt>Making it very, very hard to transition from the lovely Sugar-Gui world too the harsh reality of Open Firmware boot prompts, Linux kernel messages, SysV runtime levels, xorg.conf files, wifi standards and Avahi multicasts announcements.</tt> <tt>So you could end up with a system that is wonderful in teaching almost everything except computers.  Because the only thing kids will learn about computers is that sometimes they break, make you feel like a complete idiot and that it's better not to change anything too avoid feeling like being an idiot.</tt> <tt>This ultimately leads to a situation where you either have to enable young kids to understand pretty complex and high level system administration stuff or need one dedicated computer geek per school you can offload any computer related problem within a school (which would be the less ideal solution). </tt> <tt>cu andreas</tt> </div></div></div> <hr size=1>Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ "> Try it now.</a></body></html>