[IAEP] How to navigate sugar-desktop (actually the Journal activity?) in my vanilla F29

Kevin accounts at medical.democrat
Mon Nov 26 01:47:13 EST 2018

Ok. But it looks like this bug has been a problem since July 2017? I
wonder how many sugar newbies tried it and gave up in the 17 or so
months since then?

In retrospect, it occurs to me that if I had used google to search for
"sugar journal bug" then I could have avoided taking the time to write
this lengthy post describing this problem, but it just didn't occur to
me that it could have been a bug before you brought the bug to my attention.

So what about a wiki article entitled "errata" or something similar that
would be a single place that could change more frequently as bugs and/or
other events come and go? Then perhaps all of the various pages that are
designed to help newbies like me install sugar could point to the errata
page? And for now (until this bug gets fixed), that might help other
sugar newbies with the current problem.

I think a good first place to direct newbies to this errata article
might be at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Getting_Started (that was one
of the first pages I read).

If that would be helpful, I'll volunteer to do it (write the errata
article and link to it in the Getting Started article). Or should I ask
about this in another list maybe?

On 11/26/18 1:31 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> Perhaps, but the bug isn't specific to Fedora.  It happens also on
> Debian, Ubuntu and others, as soon as they upgrade Metacity.
> I'd prefer we fix the bug than document it everywhere, because after
> the bug is fixed people keep finding documents that refer to it.
> Also, I'm not sure
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation is
> current; it has old references to Fedora 24 and Windows 7.
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 01:21:25AM -0500, Kevin wrote:
>> Oh! Ok. Thanks for explaining, James! Would it be helpful if I added some words
>> about this bug to the [1]wiki article that got me started?
>> On 11/26/18 1:15 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>>     Thanks for the report.
>>     You're hitting a known bug we are working on.
>>     Press F3 key to show the home view, or move the mouse to the corner,
>>     wait for the Frame to appear, and select the home view that way.
>>     [2]https://help.sugarlabs.org/en/home_view.html
>>     The bug was introduced by the Metacity window manager and is being
>>     tracked in several places;
>>     [3]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/769#issuecomment-441350118
>>     [4]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/issues/368
>>     [5]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1519042
>>     You can take a screenshot with Alt-1, and it will be added to the
>>     Journal, but it isn't necessary, I know what you've hit.
>>     If you know any developers interested in helping to fix this, send
>>     them to me!
>>     On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 01:04:25AM -0500, Kevin wrote:
>>         When I enter my kid's username and password at the gnome display manager in F29
>>         and select the Sugar desktop, I do see the "Click to change color:" screen.
>>         After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose gender.
>>         After I click "Next" on this screen, then I see a screen to choose a grade.
>>         After I click "Done" on this screen, I don't see my XO character at the center
>>         of a spiral of Activity icons like I do at [4][8]https://try.sugarizer.org. I
>>         don't see anything like it at all. I can't take a screenshot of it because the
>>         screen seems to have no functionality for that at all. In the middle of a white
>>         screen I see a gray icon of a three-ring binder and the phrase: "Your Journal
>>         is empty". In the black top bar or "title bar", I see a small gray magnifying
>>         glass search icon in a white text box that reads "Search in Journal" on the far
>>         left, and then proceeding from left to right, I see a white star, then a white
>>         box icon with its four top flaps open, then two drop-down menus that read
>>         "Anything" (entitled "Select filter") and "Anytime" (also entitled "Select
>>         filter" with date options like "Today" and "Since yesterday"), respectively,
>>         then lastly I see an icon of a pencil writing on a piece of paper with upward
>>         and downward pointing triangles (another drop-down menu entitled "Sort view").
>>         I get the impression that in my F29/Sugar desktop described above, I'm looking
>>         at the Journal Activity, not the spiral collection of Activity icons that I see
>>         at [5][9]https://try.sugarizer.org.

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