[IAEP] [SLOBS] Technical Service Request - Project: Sugar Network

Lionel Laské lionel.laske at gmail.com
Fri Sep 29 15:44:31 EDT 2017


Cool. Good news.

Please Laura, keep us inform about the work done.

Best regards.

       Lionel.


2017-09-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>:

>
> Thank you very much Sameer!
>
> I have updated the wiki decisions
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions#2017-04-21> page
> and hope to schedule the maintenance tasks for Sugar Network implementation
> in Perú ASAP.
>
> Achieving sustainability in the future will depend on the implementation
> team's capacity to understand, follow and complete the upstreaming process
> so that specific design features that have proof to facilitate
> collaborative learning on Sugar Network make it to the latest version of
> Sugar and therefore expand on more territories.
>
> Regards and thank you once more to all board members that supported this
> request.
>
> Laura V
>
>
>
> 2017-09-28 21:29 GMT-05:00 Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>:
>
>> Sorry, but I've been traveling, so didn't see this.
>>
>> For a one time maintenance, I'll give it a +1. However, this project
>> needs to find better ways to sustain.
>>
>> Sameer
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > 2017-09-26 21:44 GMT-05:00 Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> top-posting because of thread length.
>> >>
>> >> 1) The original request was posted 2017-04-02, how urgent can it
>> really be
>> >> if it has been impossible to find someone to step up and volunteer 20
>> >> minutes to do this in the past six months?
>> >
>> >
>> > Unfortunately in Perú we had a +2 months Teacher's Strike after mid-term
>> > vacations. Current political climate at Min-Edu is very unstable and
>> slowly
>> > classes are going back to normal. Now that learners are back to schools,
>> > they are back working within Sugar Network.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2) Has any other maintenance been performed on this server in the last
>> six
>> >> months?  If yes, why has CAPTCHA not been added already?  If no, is
>> this
>> >> truly a viable service if no one will maintain it?
>> >
>> >
>> > Samuel and Sebastian have help with the main maintenance of the server
>> where
>> > it is hosted. Still, the maintenance we need now is on the code and the
>> data
>> > base.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 3)  What is the justification for $500 in costs when it takes 7 steps
>> and
>> >> 20 minutes to implement reCAPTCHA according the developer's own
>> estimate.
>> >>
>> >> https://codelabs.developers.google.com/codelabs/reCAPTCHA/index.html#0
>> >>
>> >
>> > I guess we can do with less if necessary but it requires hours
>> described in
>> > the proposal. The request I made will cover re-creating a development
>> > environment, integration of the captcha forms, documentation and of
>> course
>> > cleaning the Spam.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 4) Is there any expiration time limit on motions to the SLOBs?   Maybe
>> >> after 6 months it should go to a fresh vote as circumstances can
>> obviously
>> >> change?
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes usually the window for voting is seven days. I am requesting SLOBs
>> to
>> > consider Sameer's vote if possible because l have failed to find other
>> ways
>> > to sponsor this maintenance.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your interest
>> >
>> > Laura V
>> >
>> >>
>> >> cjl
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear Sameer,
>> >>>
>> >>> You probably missed this motion as we didn't get your vote.
>> >>>
>> >>> Today, we are still in need of funding due to recurrent *spam
>> attacks* we
>> >>> have had during previous months, and given the fact that we are
>> serving a
>> >>> large group of active users during the local school year, I hope the
>> board
>> >>> can accept your late vote.
>> >>>
>> >>> The motion presented by Lionel and Seconded by Samson states:
>> >>>
>> >>> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam attacks on
>> >>> Sugar Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the
>> Technical
>> >>> Service Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to avoid
>> >>> interruption of service for Sugar Network users. Further investments
>> on
>> >>> Sugar Network will be correlated to discussion about long-term
>> support of
>> >>> the platform.
>> >>>
>> >>> So far, we got:
>> >>>
>> >>> 3 votes on favor (Ignacio, Samson and Lionel)
>> >>> 1 vote against (Walter)
>> >>> 1 abstain (Adam)
>> >>> 1 recuse (Laura)
>> >>>
>> >>> I know you hope to bring your skills and expertise to contribute to
>> the
>> >>> strategic direction of Sugar the project, and its implementations, so
>> I ask
>> >>> for your support for this implementation serving +40,000 learners.
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope for your positive vote.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards and blessings from Perú.
>> >>>
>> >>> Laura
>> >>>
>> >>> 2017-04-21 14:54 GMT-05:00 Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I abstain as I see real arguments on both sides, and apologize I am
>> >>>> torn.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 21, 2017 3:49 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Laura Vargas <
>> laura at somosazucar.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As I have come to understand I, Laura was ineligible to vote
>> according
>> >>>>>> to the Conflict of Interest Policy of Conservancy.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So, we had 6 eligible votes with the following results during the
>> >>>>>> voting period by email:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 3 votes on favor (Ignacio, Samson and Lionel)
>> >>>>>> 1 vote against (Walter)
>> >>>>>> no votes received from Adam and Sameer (count as abstentions)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think we can wait a bit longer for Adam and Sameer to register
>> their
>> >>>>> votes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -walter
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Since a clear majority on favor is required to pass a Motion[1],
>> >>>>>> Motion has failed.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thank you all that supported the motion! We hope we'll find some
>> other
>> >>>>>> way.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards and blessings to all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Laura V
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2017-04-17 10:42 GMT-05:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <
>> ignacio at sugarlabs.org>:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Well as I said +1.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Lets hope everything gets resolved ASAP
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 4/17/17, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> > -1 from me. It seems an arbitrary and unscalable request.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Laura Vargas
>> >>>>>>> > <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> >>>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >> Ignacio, I believe you'll need to state your vote again :D
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> Since I am the requesting party, my vote will be "abstain".
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> For all other slobs that haven't vote yet: Adam, Sameer and
>> >>>>>>> >> Walter,
>> >>>>>>> >> please
>> >>>>>>> >> keep in mind motions need to be voted on via email within 7
>> days
>> >>>>>>> >> of
>> >>>>>>> >> posting.
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> In case any of you slobs require additional information please
>> do
>> >>>>>>> >> ask on
>> >>>>>>> >> time.
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> Regards,
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> Laura V
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> 2017-04-13 9:07 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com
>> >:
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>> +1 for me.
>> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>> >>> On Apr 13, 2017 11:25 AM, "Lionel Laské" <
>> lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam
>> >>>>>>> >>>> attacks on
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Sugar Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Technical
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Service Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to
>> >>>>>>> >>>> avoid
>> >>>>>>> >>>> interruption of service for Sugar Network users. Further
>> >>>>>>> >>>> investments on
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Sugar Network will be correlated to discussion about
>> long-term
>> >>>>>>> >>>> support
>> >>>>>>> >>>> of
>> >>>>>>> >>>> the platform.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Please second this motion to start the vote.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>> Best regards.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>          Lionel.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>> 2017-04-12 14:22 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <
>> laura at somosazucar.org>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you Lionel, Samson and Ignacio!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> The formal procedure requires a SLOB to propose "A motion"
>> and
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> then
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> another SLOB to second it. In this way all other SLOBs will
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> understand
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> they
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> are called to vote.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate if you guys can do this.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Blessings and regards
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Laura V
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-09 11:36 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> <lionel.laske at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm agree with the idea to think to the long-term but I
>> think
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> can't
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> leave loyal Sugar user without their tools.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> So +1 to process this TSR considering we can't process
>> other
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> requests
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> without thinking to the long term support of Sugar Network.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>         Lionel.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-04-08 16:39 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we solve the urgent need to neutralize Spam attacks,
>> I
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> would
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> love to open the discussion for long-term support.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:34 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Laura Vargas
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <laura at somosazucar.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have supported Sugar Network on a voluntary basis
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> without
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> retribution since it's deployment on 2014.
>> Unfortunately we
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ran out
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> resources and can't afford to dedicate the required
>> time.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This begs the question, what is next? How will the next
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> issue be
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> resolved? It seems a long-term solution should be
>> discussed
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> opposed to a
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> one-time patch.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:24 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This document helps clarify what work needs to be done.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> not clear to me is why this is work that needs to be
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> funded as
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> opposed to
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> being done by volunteers.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -walter
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Laura Vargas <
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As per SLOB's request in yesterday's meeting, I'm
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> attaching the
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Network urgent maintenance project proposal.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope this documents covers all the information
>> required
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOB's to make a decision.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards from the Peruvian Amazon forest,
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-02 23:58 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Community members, Oversight Board Members and
>> Free
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Conservancy Staff,
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add the following request to the
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> April's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our dear *Sugar Network is in #urgent need of
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance*.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Due the the recurrent *spam attacks *we have had
>> during
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> previous months, and due to the fact that we are
>> serving
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a large
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> group of
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> active users during the local school year, I'm hereby
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> requesting
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> funds to
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perform the following technical services:
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  The addition of a "Captcha" identifier for the 3
>> main
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> forms.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  Clean the Spam comments
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Active users this could help: +40,000
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Name of who is actually doing the work: Luis
>> Sebastian
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Silva,
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura Victoria Vargas
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Funds required:  USD $500
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I openly declare the existence of conflict of
>> interest
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> associated with any funding request presented by me
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and/or my
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> husband as
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> long as I continue serving as a Sugar Labs Oversight
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> member.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the above, I understand Conservancy
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledges
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that many PLC (Project Leadership Committee) Persons
>> are
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> technical service
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> contractors and therefore it would be doable for the
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oversight
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board to approve the required funds.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Software Freedom Conservancy
>> Conflict
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interest Policy, a conflicted PLC Person must abstain
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from and
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> must not
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear nor read the pre-vote discussions of the matter.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore* I will not vote nor participate in any
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-vote
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of this matter.*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings and thanks in advance!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 1: Artwork shared at Sugar Network -
>> English
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Class
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Hilda
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 2: Official Conflict of Interest Policy of
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Conservancy
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 3: Spam Comments on Sugar Network
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> >>>> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>>> >>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> --
>> >>>>>>> >> Laura V.
>> >>>>>>> >> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> >>>>>>> >> ~ Laura Victoria
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>>> >> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>> >>>>>>> >> #LearningByDoing
>> >>>>>>> >> #Projects4good
>> >>>>>>> >> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> >> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>>> >> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>> > Walter Bender
>> >>>>>>> > Sugar Labs
>> >>>>>>> > http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> > <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> >>>>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Laura V.
>> >>>>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> >>>>>> ~ Laura Victoria
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Happy Learning!
>> >>>>>> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>> >>>>>> #LearningByDoing
>> >>>>>> #Projects4good
>> >>>>>> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>> >>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Walter Bender
>> >>>>> Sugar Labs
>> >>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> >>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Laura V.
>> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >>>
>> >>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> >>> ~ L. Victoria
>> >>>
>> >>> Happy Learning!
>> >>> #LearningByDoing
>> >>> #Projects4good
>> >>> #IDesignATSugarLabs
>> >>> #WeCanDoBetter
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> >>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Laura V.
>> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >
>> > “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>> > ~ L. Victoria
>> >
>> > Happy Learning!
>> > #LearningByDoing
>> > #Projects4good
>> > #IDesignATSugarLabs
>> > #WeCanDoBetter
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
>> Professor, Information Systems
>> San Francisco State University
>> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ L. Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
> #WeCanDoBetter
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
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