[IAEP] [SLOBS] Technical Service Request - Project: Sugar Network

Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
Tue Sep 26 22:44:47 EDT 2017
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top-posting because of thread length.

1) The original request was posted 2017-04-02, how urgent can it really be
if it has been impossible to find someone to step up and volunteer 20
minutes to do this in the past six months?

2) Has any other maintenance been performed on this server in the last six
months?  If yes, why has CAPTCHA not been added already?  If no, is this
truly a viable service if no one will maintain it?

3)  What is the justification for $500 in costs when it takes 7 steps and
20 minutes to implement reCAPTCHA according the developer's own estimate.

https://codelabs.developers.google.com/codelabs/reCAPTCHA/index.html#0

4) Is there any expiration time limit on motions to the SLOBs?   Maybe
after 6 months it should go to a fresh vote as circumstances can obviously
change?

cjl


On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

> Dear Sameer,
>
> You probably missed this motion as we didn't get your vote.
>
> Today, we are still in need of funding due to recurrent *spam attacks* we
> have had during previous months, and given the fact that we are serving a
> large group of active users during the local school year, I hope the board
> can accept your late vote.
>
> The motion presented by Lionel and Seconded by Samson states:
>
> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam attacks on Sugar
> Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the Technical Service
> Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to avoid interruption of
> service for Sugar Network users. Further investments on Sugar Network
> will be correlated to discussion about long-term support of the platform.
>
> So far, we got:
>
> 3 votes on favor (Ignacio, Samson and Lionel)
> 1 vote against (Walter)
> 1 abstain (Adam)
> 1 recuse (Laura)
>
> I know you hope to bring your skills and expertise to contribute to the
> strategic direction of Sugar the project, and its implementations, so I ask
> for your support for this implementation serving +40,000 learners.
>
> I hope for your positive vote.
>
> Regards and blessings from Perú.
>
> Laura
>
> 2017-04-21 14:54 GMT-05:00 Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org>:
>
>> I abstain as I see real arguments on both sides, and apologize I am torn.
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2017 3:49 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I have come to understand I, Laura was ineligible to vote according
>>>> to the Conflict of Interest Policy of Conservancy.
>>>>
>>>> So, we had 6 eligible votes with the following results during the
>>>> voting period by email:
>>>>
>>>> 3 votes on favor (Ignacio, Samson and Lionel)
>>>> 1 vote against (Walter)
>>>> no votes received from Adam and Sameer (count as abstentions)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think we can wait a bit longer for Adam and Sameer to register their
>>> votes.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since a clear majority on favor is required to pass a Motion[1], Motion
>>>> has failed.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all that supported the motion! We hope we'll find some other
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> Regards and blessings to all,
>>>>
>>>> Laura V
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision
>>>>
>>>> 2017-04-17 10:42 GMT-05:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <ignacio at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Well as I said +1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets hope everything gets resolved ASAP
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/17/17, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > -1 from me. It seems an arbitrary and unscalable request.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Laura Vargas <
>>>>> laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Ignacio, I believe you'll need to state your vote again :D
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Since I am the requesting party, my vote will be "abstain".
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> For all other slobs that haven't vote yet: Adam, Sameer and Walter,
>>>>> >> please
>>>>> >> keep in mind motions need to be voted on via email within 7 days of
>>>>> >> posting.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> In case any of you slobs require additional information please do
>>>>> ask on
>>>>> >> time.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Laura V
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2017-04-13 9:07 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> +1 for me.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Apr 13, 2017 11:25 AM, "Lionel Laské" <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam attacks
>>>>> on
>>>>> >>>> Sugar Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the
>>>>> Technical
>>>>> >>>> Service Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to
>>>>> avoid
>>>>> >>>> interruption of service for Sugar Network users. Further
>>>>> investments on
>>>>> >>>> Sugar Network will be correlated to discussion about long-term
>>>>> support
>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>> >>>> the platform.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Please second this motion to start the vote.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Best regards.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>          Lionel.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> 2017-04-12 14:22 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Thank you Lionel, Samson and Ignacio!
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> The formal procedure requires a SLOB to propose "A motion" and
>>>>> then
>>>>> >>>>> another SLOB to second it. In this way all other SLOBs will
>>>>> understand
>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>> >>>>> are called to vote.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate if you guys can do this.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Blessings and regards
>>>>> >>>>> Laura V
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-09 11:36 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com
>>>>> >:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> I'm agree with the idea to think to the long-term but I think we
>>>>> >>>>>> can't
>>>>> >>>>>> leave loyal Sugar user without their tools.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> So +1 to process this TSR considering we can't process other
>>>>> requests
>>>>> >>>>>> without thinking to the long term support of Sugar Network.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>         Lionel.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-04-08 16:39 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org
>>>>> >:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we solve the urgent need to neutralize Spam attacks, I
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>>>>> love to open the discussion for long-term support.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:34 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <
>>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Laura Vargas
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <laura at somosazucar.org
>>>>> >>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have supported Sugar Network on a voluntary basis without
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> retribution since it's deployment on 2014. Unfortunately we
>>>>> ran out
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> resources and can't afford to dedicate the required time.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> This begs the question, what is next? How will the next issue
>>>>> be
>>>>> >>>>>>>> resolved? It seems a long-term solution should be discussed as
>>>>> >>>>>>>> opposed to a
>>>>> >>>>>>>> one-time patch.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:24 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <
>>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This document helps clarify what work needs to be done.
>>>>> What is
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> not clear to me is why this is work that needs to be funded
>>>>> as
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> opposed to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> being done by volunteers.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -walter
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Laura Vargas <
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As per SLOB's request in yesterday's meeting, I'm
>>>>> attaching the
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Network urgent maintenance project proposal.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope this documents covers all the information required
>>>>> by
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOB's to make a decision.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards from the Peruvian Amazon forest,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-02 23:58 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas <
>>>>> laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Community members, Oversight Board Members and Free
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Conservancy Staff,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add the following request to the upcoming
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> April's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our dear *Sugar Network is in #urgent need of
>>>>> maintenance*.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Due the the recurrent *spam attacks *we have had during
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> previous months, and due to the fact that we are serving
>>>>> a large
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> group of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> active users during the local school year, I'm hereby
>>>>> requesting
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> funds to
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perform the following technical services:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  The addition of a "Captcha" identifier for the 3 main
>>>>> forms.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  Clean the Spam comments
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Active users this could help: +40,000
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Name of who is actually doing the work: Luis Sebastian
>>>>> Silva,
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura Victoria Vargas
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Funds required:  USD $500
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I openly declare the existence of conflict of interest
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> associated with any funding request presented by me
>>>>> and/or my
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> husband as
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> long as I continue serving as a Sugar Labs Oversight Board
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> member.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the above, I understand Conservancy
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledges
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that many PLC (Project Leadership Committee) Persons are
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> technical service
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> contractors and therefore it would be doable for the
>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oversight
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board to approve the required funds.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Software Freedom Conservancy Conflict of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interest Policy, a conflicted PLC Person must abstain
>>>>> from and
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> must not
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear nor read the pre-vote discussions of the matter.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore* I will not vote nor participate in any pre-vote
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of this matter.*
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings and thanks in advance!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 1: Artwork shared at Sugar Network - English
>>>>> Class
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Hilda
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 2: Official Conflict of Interest Policy of
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Conservancy
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 3: Spam Comments on Sugar Network
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> >>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>> >>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> >>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>>> >>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>> >>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>> >>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Laura V.
>>>>> >> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>>> >> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Happy Learning!
>>>>> >> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>>>> >> #LearningByDoing
>>>>> >> #Projects4good
>>>>> >> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> SLOBs mailing list
>>>>> >> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Walter Bender
>>>>> > Sugar Labs
>>>>> > http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laura V.
>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>
>>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>>
>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>>> #LearningByDoing
>>>> #Projects4good
>>>> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter Bender
>>> Sugar Labs
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>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ L. Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IDesignATSugarLabs
> #WeCanDoBetter
>
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