[IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] yet another motion regarding Samson's travel

[Samson Goddy]

Martin Dengler, i am sorry to be bringing this sad news to iaep list. FYI,
adam suggested it and put it himself not me.



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:14 AM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> -1 for this motion.
>>
>> Participation to the GSoC Summit is already a privilege. It's fair that
>> Samson as a mentor could have opportunity to attend to it.
>> I don't see any advantage for SugarLabs on the Samson side trip, so there
>> is no reason for SugarLabs to pay for it.
>>
>
> Lionel,
>
> While I strongly sympathize (I work with Haitian teachers who don't find
> it funny that Samson appears willing to let substantially more than $500
> disappear, far more than a year's salary for my educator colleagues in
> Haiti...)
>

Please, could you look for a flight that can cost only $500 from Nigeria to
America? Adam? since we are in the spirit of reducing flight tickets,
because i see it as a good idea too to flying $500.

Because you recently suggest that KLM flies less than $1400 without fulling
investigating that it was almost $2000 for that flight.

Well, Lionel feels that SL should invest money that was meant for travel
provided by Google for getting tablets because, Samson is the one
traveling.

>
> Still let me still ask: what would you think if Samson approached this
> with a spirit of compromise, spending $1277.68+190 instead of the earlier
> desired 1920.82 (1730.82+190) or 2110.22 (1920.22+190) ?  In this fashion
> his 2 side trips would not cost Sugar Labs much at all:
>
> $1,277.68 @ Emirates.com for https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL Lagos - San
> Francisco Oct 12/13; Boston - Lagos Oct 21/22
> $190 Los Angeles - Boston Oct 15/16
>

I gave SFC two flight option either $1730 arriving 4:30pm which might make
me late(about 2-3hrs late due to immigration checkings) to the Gsoc summit
on friday. Or i could arrive by 2:30pm and be early for the summit.

Now you are sending me to far middle east which recently Donald Trump ban
(all middle east airlines and north Africa) due to potential terrorist
attack. Yes they lifted the ban? but remember you are putting me in a tight
corner with the U.S immigration officers, are you trying to get me
deported? because anything could go wrong with immigration especially when
it is my first time travelling outside Africa. Remember i am not a US
citizen like most of you, i am holding an ecowas (Nigerian passport) flying
from middle east is not good especially when i am traveling for the first
time.


So please Adam, i am tired of you suggesting flight from you own end
because you are not the one flying it.

Remember Donald Trump and travel policy especially when it has to do with
muslims flight?

Of course, i would want to spend my layover in Dubai (Nice city and great
airport compare to london) but i want avoid immigration questions like...
"we saw you flew to Dubai from Lagos, why didn't you take a direct flight
or fly via, paris, amsterdam or London which most people do, Are you a
terrorist? are you working for ISIS" yeah it is crazy, but i was ask if i
was going to bomb united states when i the consular officer was
interviewing me for my visa.

>
> Nobody appreciates a "planned emergency" like this, when Samson's side
> trips could easily have been mentioned in public earlier this summer,
> instead of forcing everyone to the brink like this with de facto
> high-pressure sales tactics.
>

That is not entirely true, because I informed SFC when they ask me for
flight option. I mentioned to the them that i am doing to Boston for (with
walter for future Turtle Art workshop in Nigeria, and Scratch for 3.0 on
Sugar and Sugarizer). The scratch foundation sent me a letter backing up my
visa for the purpose. SFC ask SLOBS to approve $2000 for my flight because
i gave them series of different options of flight using tripadvisor.

>
> But let's try to make the best of this obvious disaster and put that
> behind us.
>
> If you agree, Samson might be wise to jump on this opportunity immediately
> instead of arguing for days over a trip that could Very Easily Go Down The
> Drain (as prices are now rising quickly, with Oct 12 only days away now).
>
> In Context: the companies I've worked for across my career would * never *
> allow the purchase of intercontinental flights only ~16 days prior to
> travel like this, even if Samson's side trips had been mentioned
> forthrightly a priori (instead of forcing Sugar Labs to the brink, and
> costing us money with ever-rising flight costs...)
>
*Adam, 4 questions for you anything you will say or suggest is what i will
discuss with SFC*

*I am schedule to meet with SFC today concerning my flight. So adam what
are your points? are you trying to send my to middle east and label as a
potential terrorist (i filled in my form that i am not terrorist when
applying and was ask at the US embassy if i am a terrorist), remember i am
traveling to the U.S for the first time? (emirate flight?)*

*Or i fly British airways arriving 4:30pm(could be late for friday's
meeting in SF because of immigration) under $1730 (i prefer this too, so i
am totally fine with these flight)?*

*Or fly British airways arriving 2:30pm (early for friday's meeting) under
$1920 ?*

*or wait for you to suggest another flight as you have been doing?*

*Remember you mention last time that SL cannot afford to risk money to get
my a visa? Thankfully, you introduce someone that loan me the money for
visa.*

So now Sugar labs is trying to not risk money for travel too? which i
believe google donated for travel?

*As walter suggested, He said our cut from the mentor's bonus could be add
to this trip. I find it sad? but hy, i am use to this.*

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