[IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] yet another motion regarding Samson's travel

[Walter Bender]

Please excuse the top post.

>From what I understand, from the flights that Samson identified, which are
the ones with reasonable layovers -- a consideration that the new SFC
travel guidelines allow him to take into account -- the difference is a
wash. However, if you think it is necessary to vote on whether or not to
support Samson's layover in Boston, let me add another data point. Google,
in addition to giving SL $3300 towards mentor travel, also gave us $4500 to
be used at the discretion of the mentors. Since we had 10 active mentors,
that would mean that between Samson and myself, we have an additional $900
we could put towards travel. In any case, I think it is ludicrous not to
give a community member this opportunity.

As far as Lionel's argument that we could be buying tablets instead, to me
it doesn't hold water, because (a) the travel money is earmarked for
travel, and (b) for what ever reason, no one is suggesting that Michael's
travel money be put towards laptops.

regards.

-walter

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sep 24, 2017 7:44 PM, "Adam Holt" <holt at laptop.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 from me.
>>
>> This is a timely matter, so please vote ASAP.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Second.
>>>
>>> Sameer
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 10:48 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As has been discussed, Samson would like to have a layover in Boston on
>>>> the way back from the Google Summer of Code summit. He has documented here
>>>> [1] that there is not increase in the cost of the ticket to make the Boston
>>>> stop. Nonetheless, the SFC has asked that the oversight board approve this
>>>> change in the original motion, which only mentioned the GSoC summit.
>>>>
>>>> Motion: approve the inclusion of a Boston layover in Samson's trip from
>>>> Nigeria to California on his return from the GSoC summit.
>>>>
>>>> Please note that this is independent of the request for additional
>>>> funding associated with traveling to Boston (although as Samson has already
>>>> noted, we have arranged free lodging for him, thanks to the Minsky family).
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dBJ14BeT4titV9FU7Cf0jcJc
>>>> 5nto54ly8aZEbN8ZbVw/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>
> This documentation is incorrect.  Sugar Labs is being asked to pay $487.36
> or $676.76 extra as a result of Samson Goddy's desired side-trips (which
> were not mention in Motion 2017-17
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions>) to LA and
> Boston after GSoC Mentoring Summit in the SF area Oct 13-15.
>
> As compared to a Nigeria-San Francisco flight without such visits (
> $1433.46 is the actual total price at http://klm.com also shown at
> https://goo.gl/flights/XwKR )
>
> The links are not displaying. I chose a preferred flight to SFC which was
> under the rules and also flexible for me, i took weeks in getting that
> flights . Are you now choosing another flight for me?
>
> SFC originally asked me to Ask SLOBS for permission because they notice my
> layover in Boston which i explain in previous mail. That i am meeting with
> the scratch team and secondly walter about future T.A day in Nigeria.
>
> I am going to L.A from SFO on my own expenses  (caryl is paying for the
> flight) taking a local flight from L.A.X to boston.
>
> Which i did. You saying that document is incorrect is wrong. Because i
> sent the same documents to SFC starting that i am to fly British airways
> and coming back October 24th because of an exams i am having in Nigeria.
>
>
> Sugar Labs may indeed decide Samson's side trips are worth the extra
> price, be it either of the following of the 2 flights chosen by Samson:
>
> $487.36 = 1730.82 (pricier open-jaw ticket) + 190 (LA to Boston) - 1433.46
>
> $676.76 = 1920.22 (pricier open-jaw ticket) + 190 (LA to Boston) -1433.46
>
> Let's be open to an honest, civil debate here about how much exactly
> Samson's side trips are (or are not) worth to Sugar Labs.  Please if we can
> execute financial decision-making in public (I'm moving this private email
> discussion from slobs at lists.sugarlabs.org to iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org)
> unless there is an overwhelming reason for confidentiality during
> merger/acquisition planning, legal threats etc.
>
>
> It is cool, but i don't understand why the arguments. The google link
> shows the flight i chose and explain how i intend to go to Boston.
>
> Once again thank you.
>
> Please i am to meet with SFC on monday for my flight so making this
> decision fast will be nice.
>
>
> Thank You All.
>
> regards.
>>>>
>>>> -walter
>>>>
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