[IAEP] Funds for local cost

Adam Holt holt at laptop.org
Wed May 31 07:37:15 EDT 2017

On May 31, 2017 3:53 AM, "Samson Goddy" <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:51 AM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> This is a spinoff motion [1] from the previous one i proposed. The main
>> purpose of this proposal is to help support my trip to bordeaux especially
>> on local expenses. This is a well thought proposal, since the community
>> can't afford to send me and ibiam to bordeaux. I made a solo motion for
>> just me, because the scratch team will be taking care of my flight and
>> hotel cost in france.
>> As per Adam's request on the last motion. My plan is to get money from
>> scratch team to cover the ~800 euros cost for this proposal then get
>> reimbursed if i successfully get my visa for travel. So the community will
>> not border about losing money if i don't get the visa.
> Can you break down this $~900 (€800) into a more precise budget please,
> explaining exactly what's needed?  Thanks as the following paragraphs don't
> give enough information to understand why $~900 is being sought:

What i need exactly is 260,000 nigerian naira which i see now is $826. But
the nigerian local go up and down every hour towards the dollar, euros and
pounds. I will be changing the local currency from either euros or dollar
to my local currency and also buy euros again with the naira when i want to
leave Nigeria.

1. Return flight to Lagos $200 via Arik Air

+1 so we don't have to argue with your parents (bus to Lagos worked for me).

2. An uber or taxi from the local terminal (Airport) to Lekki where i
supposedly will be staying for 1-6 working days. (15,000 nigerian naira)

My Lagos airport bus, including a connection to cross the city, was about $2

3. I called the consulate in lagos, they advise me to stay for minimum of 1
week, so that if they need any supporting document they can easily tell me
to rush down to their office without coming from Port Harcourt again. So i
will be staying for 1-6 days in lagos (80,000 to 90,000)

Airbnb.com has many well-reviewed rooms incl WiFi for $20 to $30 per night.

$10 to $20 per night options also exist on Airbnb (insist on reviews, to
avoid fraud).  Personally I stayed in low-end hotels for about $5 to 10 per
night, as I did during my 3 weeks in West Africa.

You friend's home in Lagos (per the original plan) might also be an option.

4. The closest hotel i have seens so far is 20 minute drive to the
consulate's office.  So taxi fares will be included, i can't be sure of how
much they pay because Lekki is one of the V.I.P areas for rich folks in

I traveled to 10 different neighborhoods in Lagos and never paid more than
about $1 for the bus.  My linguistic skills are low (luckily yours are not,
still keep GPS handy) but I always got to my destination quickly.

5. Since it takes 15 working days to processes a visa i will have to pay
for consulate endorsed or affiliated courier to bring my visa and passport
to Port Harcourt where i live, since i can't stay for 15 working days.
Prices are unknown to me, i will know when i go to lagos.


6. My feeding

I was able to eat well in Lagos for $2/day.  Of course I avoid fancy
restaurants, unless a business meeting requires that.

7. Miscellaneous

Progress.  But can you tell us the rough cost of the visa itself?

*Note: *All this are just estimate, because it might go higher based on the
real time exchange rate of foreign currencies to my local currently. This
are very expensive in Nigeria, please don't use Google to check prices of
things in Nigeria because they are not accurate everything goes up and down
in hours.

FYI, when the scratch team offered pay for my passport in April,  they saw
on the internet that my people under 18 in Nigeria pays 15 thousand for
passport. But when i got to the immigration office, i paid 30,000 nigeria
and additional 10,000 to get the passport quicker.

So  $~900 is recommended because the exchange moves every hour. Things are
expensive in Nigeria because people rendering the goods and service uses
the black market rate for some selfish reasons.

See Aboki FX

https://abokifx.com/ for daily prices of things in Nigeria how dollar
affect things.


> "First all the embassy in Nigeria are either in Lagos or Abuja. So he has
> to stay in Lagos or Abuja for the period of obtaining the visa. This will
> cover return flight cost from Port Harcourt to Lagos or Abuja.
> I took the bus to Lagos (and the passengers were extraordinarily gracious)
> but if you must fly Port Harcourt to Lagos/Abuja because your parents don't
> allow you to take the bus, that is (about) $100 in each direction.
> i have to go to lagos so that i can stay in a friend’s place, but cost of
> food will be on it too. The Visa processing takes about minimum of 15 days,
> but if the Scratch team request i go to Abuja instead for the visa. The
> costs of my hotel bills will be covered by them.

I am heading to lagos not abuja, Abuja is a very expensive city to live for
1-5 days in hotel.

> Great if Scratch has offered to cover hotel bills in Abuja (which might
> not even be needed if you stay in Lagos?)  Why is Scratch potentially
> requiring you visit Abuja?

Sorry that was before, i forgot to remove it. I will be staying in lagos
for the visa processing.

> This money will also serve for transporting me to the different locations
> in Bordeaux for the conference. The Conference will be taking place in 3
> different areas in Bordeaux, also some taxing fees we’ll have to pay before
> we can leave Nigeria to France."
> http://www.scratch2017bdx.org/en/map-of-venues/ says the entire week's
> transportation costs should be €13, or free if a bikeshare is used
> according to http://www.scratch2017bdx.org/en/getting-around/
> Thanks Samson for clarifying, so people can vote based on a very real
> budget projections.
> I hope this get seconded so that it can be voted upon
>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG
>> 15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>> Regards
>> Samson G
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