[IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Samson Goddy]

Hello laura,

Sorry laura, i still don't understand your comment too. I think what lionel
was trying to point of to me was that strict policy for the visa, which i
later pointed out that we already know the process. Secondly, lionel also
mentioned that his team can also represent Sugar/Sugarizer which i don't
understand his reason for it. But i will say it again, I and Ibiam was
invited and secondly was given the ability to take the stage in bordeaux to
share our stories.

We were invited not just because we were from Sugar Labs, because everyone
coming to Bordeaux all at least will be giving a talk on stage are either
talking about Scratch or giving a related story around Logo programming
language.

I don't see scratch in Sugarizer, correct me if i am wrong. Scratch is not
even available for Sugar also currently. I and Ibiam was chosen because we
started using Scratch and Turtle Art when we were 11 and 12 years old
respectively. We did projects with these tools while we were in junior
high. We also happen to use the OLPC device and more important i and ibiam
are both scratch educators in our country, so that is the reason why we
were chosen to come give a talk.

This is not my first trip related to the bordeaux conference, i did travel
to Nairobi without Sugar Labs support i didn't mail to ask for any fund.
But i represented Sugar Labs anyways, you can go to my facebook page and
see some pictures you both would. While in Nairobi, i spoke with the main
organizer of the Scratch bordeaux and gave him my reasons why i would like
to add Sugar Labs projects to my talk. I had to write a proposal, and we
were selected. So that how important this trip is to us.

For SFC see [1], frankly speaking i have read the policy again one more
time, i don't see anything that stand against this proposal for moving
further. SFC will do the booking themselves for hotel and tickets. The
ticket is not greater than $1,500, but it is under $1,500. But we both need
about 1,033 euros in cash that if SFC can book the hotel themselves also,
if not we will have to book the hotel ourselves. We are not applying
for *Reimbursement
Procedure.*


i don't see any reason why the proposal is receiving these comments. We are
equally trying to do
outreaching program for this community, but i am little disappointed. I
also see that this community
is slowly becoming something else.


[1]
https://k.sfconservancy.org/policies/files/master/Travel/conservancy-travel-policy.txt#L47

BR
Samson



On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:46 AM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

> I'll follow Lionel's lead on this one. Fossil fuels traveling these days
> should be avoided..
>
> Additionally, SLOB's should be clear with the community and highlight the
> fact that according to current Software Freedom Conservancy travel policies
> no cash advance can be approved for members.
>
>
> This is the same reason that made Ignacio's request rejected by the
> Conservancy.
>
> If we need a change in the Software Freedom Conservancy travel policy, we
> should appoint our representative to discuss the options with the
> Conservancy.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> 2017-05-19 16:17 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>:
>
>> Should we take your comment as "-1" to the proposal?
>>
>> BR
>> Samson
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not for the idea:
>>> - It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They
>>> could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do,
>>> the come from France - compared to Nigeria.
>>> - Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government
>>> is sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.
>>>
>>>            Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <ignacio at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>
>>>> I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P
>>>>
>>>> But as I already said, its +1 from me
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I second.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sameer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <
>>>>>> samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that
>>>>>>> since wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member
>>>>>>> in this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, so
>>>>>>> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
>>>>>>> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
>>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Samson Goddy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
>>>>>>> ignacio at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's +1 from me :)
>>>>>>>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are
>>>>>>>> doing, awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Ignacio.-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <
>>>>>>>> avni at kidsoncomputers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal.
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not
>>>>>>>>> a member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Caryl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender <
>>>>>>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Samson and Ibiam are seeking funds to cover part of the cost to
>>>>>>>>> attend the Scratch Conference in Bordeaux France in July to promote Sugar.
>>>>>>>>> The detailed proposal is here [1].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Motion: Sugar Labs agrees to cover up to US$2800 for expenses
>>>>>>>>> related to traveling to the Scratch2017BDX, 17th to 22nd of July, 2017 for
>>>>>>>>> Samson Goddy and Ibiam Chihurumnaya.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG
>>>>>>>>> 15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender
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