[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] (Goals and Mission) with Microsoft in it?

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

I'm using 13.2.7 . I would use the workaround. Thanks.

*Ibiam Chihurumnaya*

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:58 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> Thanks.  Are you using 13.2.8?
>
> The Fedora repositories for Fedora 18 moved, and this was fixed in
> 13.2.8, see here;
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.7#Fedora_Repositories_Missing
>
> If you are using 13.2.7 or earlier, please use the workaround on that
> page.
>
> I've just tested "sudo yum install vlc" on XO-1.5 with 13.2.8 and no
> problem seen, just "No package vlc available.", so I'm not sure how
> your system is configured; if the above workaround does not fix,
> please show me your changed yum.repos.d files.
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:48:54PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > Hey James, since you're still maintaining fedora18, "sudo yum vlc" - any
> > activity- returns this error "Error cannot retrieve metalink for
> repository
> > fedora18/i386" , editing the *fedora.repo files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ and
> > changing
> > all "https" to "http" solves the problem.
> >
> > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> >
> > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:58 AM, James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Composite reply to several posts, in context, see below;
> >
> >     Samson wrote:
> >     > I think we should really join the trend so that we can get more
> >     > people using Sugar for Learning.  So what are your thought on this
> >     > development?
> >
> >     I don't think it will work, as we don't have developers interested in
> >     it.  If you're interested in it and are happy to commit fully without
> >     relying on others, go for it.  But don't expect other resources to
> get
> >     involved; as the argument from numbers is not compelling enough.
> >
> >     There are more learning tools available for Windows.
> >
> >     But the numbers are not the only reason why our customers choose
> >     Linux.
> >
> >     Sebastian wrote:
> >     > Sugar barely runs [...]
> >
> >     Yes, you're right.
> >
> >     > committed releasing Sugar every six months [...] we have no release
> >     > schedule.
> >
> >     Yes, you're right.
> >
> >     A new release of Sugar with the bug fixes since 0.110 would help
> solve
> >     the "barely runs" problem.
> >
> >     (also a release of the critical activities, not just the core;
> >     newcomers to our community should note the term Sucrose has been in
> >     our Taxonomy for many years, see the Wiki if you don't know what it
> >     means.)
> >
> >     [2]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy
> >     [3]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Glossary
> >
> >     > I don't see Sugar Labs organization as capable of strategically
> >     > funding Sugar development in any direction. Of course, volunteers
> >     > can work in whatever they like, if it fits their principles.
> >
> >     I agree, and that's the basis of my engagement; subject to also
> >     stabilising Sugar for OLPC OS on Fedora 18 and Ubuntu 16.04 for
> >     delivery to OLPC customers; as a custom system with all obvious (to
> >     me) bugs fixed.
> >
> >     Sugar Labs is heavily benefiting from my work for OLPC, and OLPC is
> >     benefiting from other volunteers at Sugar Labs.
> >
> >     Dave wrote:
> >     > codebase could be returned to OLPC
> >
> >     No thanks.  Where would the Sugar Labs volunteers go who are focused
> >     on this codebase?
> >
> >     OLPC already maintains a fork with the fixes, and the changes that
> >     Sugar Labs has not accepted.  All fixes have been pushed back to
> Sugar
> >     Labs, but there has been no release, hence the exceedingly low
> quality
> >     of the Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu experience at the moment.
> >
> >     OLPC fork version numbers are like 0.110.0.olpc.12
> >
> >     > Sugar Labs could focus on the JS Sugarizer codebase.
> >
> >     Sugarizer isn't integrated into Sugar Labs; the repositories are
> >     split, cooperation is minimal, and the code for activities isn't
> >     portable to execution environments other than Sugarizer; such as
> >     sugar-web-activity.
> >
> >     So I'm certainly not inclined to support any activity development on
> >     Sugarizer; because that development won't pay back for OLPC.
> >
> >     I'm probably going to have to port the Moon activity from GTK+ 2 to
> >     GTK+ 3 unless someone can make the JavaScript version work on
> desktop.
> >     ;-)  I did get half way through.
> >
> >     Zeeshan Khan also has the task for GsoC, so we might do it together.
> >
> >     I'd like to hear from Ignacio, Sam Parkinson and Abhijit what they
> >     think of the port of Moon vs the JavaScript port; it may be simpler
> to
> >     port the JavaScript version back to Sugar.
> >
> >     Samuel Cantero wrote:
> >     > We should work to find out a new release manager [...]
> >
> >     Ignacio is the release manager at the moment, but my guess is that
> >     he'd welcome someone else taking the job.  Hopefully he'll speak up.
> >
> >     Dave wrote:
> >     > Do those xo run the latest release?
> >
> >     For mass deployment in Paraguay, they can run Sugar 0.110 plus all
> bug
> >     fixes from OLPC by using our 13.2.8 as-is or by using it as basis of
> >     custom build.
> >
> >     For individuals in Paraguay, they might run "yum update" to get Sugar
> >     0.110 plus fixes, unless there's some problem with clock, proxy, or
> >     yum.repos.d induced by environment of my bugs.
> >
> >     Samuel Cantero wrote:
> >     > we're going to try to build a new ASLO in GSoC which must ease
> >     > activities management, for both image builders and developers.
> >
> >     Please also consider Sugar Network, which Sebastian knows about, and
> >     is used heavily, judging by the hit counts on the Sugar Labs servers.
> >     Laura recently asked asking Sugar Labs for assistance with Sugar
> >     Network and bringing a new deployment onto it may be helpful.
> >
> >     German wrote:
> >     > At Dominican Republic, ~750 XO are running latest version of Sugar.
> >
> >     Good to get such positive feedback!  ;-)
> >
> >     --
> >     James Cameron
> >     [4]http://quozl.netrek.org/
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy
> > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Glossary
> > [4] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [5] mailto:IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [6] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>


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