[IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget
Dave Crossland
dave at lab6.com
Fri Feb 24 22:06:52 EST 2017
On Feb 25, 2017 1:31 AM, "Martin Abente Lahaye" <tch at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>
wrote:
> Hi martin,
>
> i believe this is it
>
Thanks!
>
> Some time ago Aleksey suggested to the list, that we should sponsor with
> US$500/month to active Sugar Labs contributors in need on a monthly basis.
>
> Today we have many active contributors that are vital to the Sugar Labs
> ecosystem
>
Actually I am not convinced of this; I do not believe that the latest
releases of the Python codebase reach classrooms, and the js codebase only
reaches one.
One of the projects listed is social help. It's a fine idea, but a cursory
look at the site shows it has extremely low activity. I think it would be
better to shut it down.
and many of them have expressed they are somehow in need of financial
> resources, perhaps it is time we retribute them with trust and monthly
> donations.
>
> At the same time and as part of the Marketing and Funding plan, there is
> interest among active contributors to start an implementation of Open
> Badges for Sugar Labs.
>
> I personally believe, Open Badges may be one way to open channels for
> resources to flow to active contributors.
>
While resources can flow through SFC, where are the resources coming from?
The SL general fund is not a source, it is a destination for funds. Eg,
Gsoc and gci pay contributors and also pay into the SL general fund. Other
grant opportunities exist.
But the whole sugar labs doesn't have a direction that makes sense, so
applying successfully for grants is not possible.
According to our financial status, I calculated at least 7 badges with
> stipends can be created and granted on a yearly basis starting 2017.
>
> Under this model and for the first year (03/2017 - 03/2018), each badge
> could have a US$500/month stipend attached, for a total of US$3,500 per
> month, totaling US$ 42,000 per year in stipends [1] to Active contributors.
>
> The beneficiary or "badge holder" can choose to accept our* monthly
> donation* or if not in need can also choose to pass it on to any active
> contributor in need or to give it back to the General Funds account. I
> volunteer myself to co-manage payments and logistics with Adam and SFC and
> Ignacio has volunteer to lead the development of the Badges.
>
> Here are the names for the badges with stipends and their holders I'm
> proposing for the first year of the model:
>
> # 1 Infrastructure Hero - Samuel Cantero
> # 2 Infrastructure Hero - Sebastian Silva
> # 3 Release Manager - Ignacio Rodriguez
> # 4 Translations Manager - Chris Leonard
> # 5 Marketing Team Leader - Samson Goddy
> # 6 Sugar Network Project Leader - Laura Vargas
> # 7 Social Help Project Leader - Sam Parkinson
>
> Here are the names for the badges without stipends and their holders I'm
> proposing for the first year of the model:
>
> # 8 Sugarizer Project Leader - Lionel Laske
> # 9 Sugar Labs Honor Badge - Walter Bender
> # 10 Secretary - Dave Crossland
> # 11 Treasure Keeper - Adam Holt
>
> Please share your toughs on the subject.
>
Is there a plan to ensure that this proposal is financially sustainable?
e.g. What will SL do in concrete to ensure that it won't run out of funds
after 2 years?
Exactly :)
> If you consider there are more Badges and/or Badge holders that should be
> considered for the first year, please feel free to nominate someone else or
> yourself and give a name to the Badge.
>
> Also, if you have a strong opposition to the model or to any of the listed
> badges or badge holders, please share the reasons openly.
>
> Hopefully by the end of next week we can give it a try to put it all into
> a single motion :D
>
> Best regards and blessings for all,
> Laura Victoria
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Martin Abente Lahaye <tch at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Where can people find more information about the " open badges" proposal?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-02-24 13:51 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hello Again....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hola Caryl,
>>>
>>>> The "Badge" proposal is a totally inappropriate use of SL funds and
>>>> could result in litigation and the possible end of SugarLabs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please do elaborate on this. We have already allocated stipends for
>>> active members in the past. As I recall Chris Leonard had an 8 month
>>> stipend of US$ 1,000.
>>>
>>> What would be difference?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I suggest a call for project proposals be done before raiding the
>>>> "cookie jar" and leaving SL destitute and powerless with nothing left in
>>>> the coffers (in a short 2 years). Samson has submitted a few proposals in
>>>> the past and I submitted one for Sugarizer Primero last summer. These are
>>>> the sort of things that the cash reserves should be used for. Paying a
>>>> select few a large monthly stipend because "they need it" is a totally
>>>> improper use of SL funds and could end up in court.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Instead, why don't some of these people propose projects that fall
>>>> within the stated purpose of SugarLabs? The SLOB can vote on them according
>>>> to their merits and approve or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Caryl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I did not put any funding for myself in my project proposal. The
>>>> money needed would go to educators in Uruguay, programmers in France and
>>>> wherever else Lionel finds them, documentation writers and translators from
>>>> many countries and educators in many countries to test the product in any
>>>> country, and a PR person to get the word out by sending reps to places
>>>> where they can show the merits of Sugarizer (Primero) to educators and
>>>> other stakeholders around the world. I would oversee the whole thing for
>>>> free (except possibly some occasional travel expenses and entrance or
>>>> visa fees).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.P.S. I know Samson could have a good proposal ... or perhaps he could
>>>> oversee the translation teams for mine. Walter probably has some in mind as
>>>> well. Let's get the vision, goals and objectives in hand before progressing
>>>> any further.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* IAEP <iaep-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Laura
>>>> Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 3:50 AM
>>>> *To:* Dave Crossland
>>>> *Cc:* Adam Holt; sugar-sur at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep; Samson Goddy;
>>>> SLOBs
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-02-24 5:33 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24 February 2017 at 12:44, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Also, if you have a strong opposition to the model or to any of the
>>>>> listed
>>>>> > badges or badge holders, please share the reasons openly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is the $42k coming from?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dave!
>>>>
>>>> As Samuel has confirm, he is not in need of funds to continue
>>>> contributing to the project so I am formulating the model with only six
>>>> Badges with stipend for a total of US$ 36k.
>>>>
>>>> There are more than US$80k in the General funds account that could
>>>> support this initiative.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> Laura V.
>>>> *I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>
>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>>
>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura V.
>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>
>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>>
>>>
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>>
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