[IAEP] [SLOBS] Technical Service Request - Project: Sugar Network

Dave Crossland dave at lab6.com
Mon Apr 24 23:24:11 EDT 2017
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Hi Laura

I sympathize with your concern for active users. But my recommendation is
to use this as motivation to shut down Sugar Network.

In my opinion: Everything associated with the old Python codebase has
entered terminal decline, is no longer sustainable, and should be archived
and turned off. All efforts should be on Sugarizer, all XO hardware should
be abandoned. If kids have xo computers that they use, let them use them,
but no more updates and no more network services.

Perhaps the shut down message should inform users where in github to get
the source to self host, and or, who to contact to get paid support.

On Apr 24, 2017 5:53 AM, "Laura Vargas" <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

>
>> I think we can wait a bit longer for Adam and Sameer to register their
>> votes.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>>>
>>>
> Walter,
>
> Now that motion failed, I'm totally out of ideas on how to achieve our
> maintenance goals. Spam was not a problem for the first 3 years of Sugar
> Network and now it consumes lot's of the User Interface and thus children
> attention. I really can't sleep relaxed while this is happening.
>
> Maybe, you can reformulate the motion in a manner that suits your approval
> criteria?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Laura
>
>
>>
>>> Since a clear majority on favor is required to pass a Motion[1], Motion
>>> has failed.
>>>
>>> Thank you all that supported the motion! We hope we'll find some other
>>> way.
>>>
>>> Regards and blessings to all,
>>>
>>> Laura V
>>>
>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision
>>>
>>> 2017-04-17 10:42 GMT-05:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <ignacio at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>
>>>> Well as I said +1.
>>>>
>>>> Lets hope everything gets resolved ASAP
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/17, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > -1 from me. It seems an arbitrary and unscalable request.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Ignacio, I believe you'll need to state your vote again :D
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since I am the requesting party, my vote will be "abstain".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For all other slobs that haven't vote yet: Adam, Sameer and Walter,
>>>> >> please
>>>> >> keep in mind motions need to be voted on via email within 7 days of
>>>> >> posting.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In case any of you slobs require additional information please do
>>>> ask on
>>>> >> time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Laura V
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2017-04-13 9:07 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> +1 for me.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Apr 13, 2017 11:25 AM, "Lionel Laské" <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam attacks
>>>> on
>>>> >>>> Sugar Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the
>>>> Technical
>>>> >>>> Service Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to avoid
>>>> >>>> interruption of service for Sugar Network users. Further
>>>> investments on
>>>> >>>> Sugar Network will be correlated to discussion about long-term
>>>> support
>>>> >>>> of
>>>> >>>> the platform.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Please second this motion to start the vote.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Best regards.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>          Lionel.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2017-04-12 14:22 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Thank you Lionel, Samson and Ignacio!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> The formal procedure requires a SLOB to propose "A motion" and
>>>> then
>>>> >>>>> another SLOB to second it. In this way all other SLOBs will
>>>> understand
>>>> >>>>> they
>>>> >>>>> are called to vote.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate if you guys can do this.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Blessings and regards
>>>> >>>>> Laura V
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-09 11:36 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I'm agree with the idea to think to the long-term but I think we
>>>> >>>>>> can't
>>>> >>>>>> leave loyal Sugar user without their tools.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> So +1 to process this TSR considering we can't process other
>>>> requests
>>>> >>>>>> without thinking to the long term support of Sugar Network.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>         Lionel.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> 2017-04-08 16:39 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Once we solve the urgent need to neutralize Spam attacks, I
>>>> would
>>>> >>>>>>> love to open the discussion for long-term support.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Regards
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:34 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <
>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Laura Vargas
>>>> >>>>>>>> <laura at somosazucar.org
>>>> >>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have supported Sugar Network on a voluntary basis without
>>>> >>>>>>>>> retribution since it's deployment on 2014. Unfortunately we
>>>> ran out
>>>> >>>>>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>>> resources and can't afford to dedicate the required time.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> This begs the question, what is next? How will the next issue
>>>> be
>>>> >>>>>>>> resolved? It seems a long-term solution should be discussed as
>>>> >>>>>>>> opposed to a
>>>> >>>>>>>> one-time patch.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:24 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <
>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This document helps clarify what work needs to be done. What
>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> not clear to me is why this is work that needs to be funded
>>>> as
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> opposed to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> being done by volunteers.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -walter
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Laura Vargas <
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As per SLOB's request in yesterday's meeting, I'm attaching
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Network urgent maintenance project proposal.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope this documents covers all the information required by
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOB's to make a decision.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards from the Peruvian Amazon forest,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-02 23:58 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas <
>>>> laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Community members, Oversight Board Members and Free
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Conservancy Staff,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add the following request to the upcoming
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> April's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our dear *Sugar Network is in #urgent need of maintenance*.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Due the the recurrent *spam attacks *we have had during
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> previous months, and due to the fact that we are serving a
>>>> large
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> group of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> active users during the local school year, I'm hereby
>>>> requesting
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> funds to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> perform the following technical services:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  The addition of a "Captcha" identifier for the 3 main
>>>> forms.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -  Clean the Spam comments
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Active users this could help: +40,000
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Name of who is actually doing the work: Luis Sebastian
>>>> Silva,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura Victoria Vargas
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Funds required:  USD $500
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I openly declare the existence of conflict of interest
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> associated with any funding request presented by me and/or
>>>> my
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> husband as
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> long as I continue serving as a Sugar Labs Oversight Board
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> member.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the above, I understand Conservancy
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledges
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that many PLC (Project Leadership Committee) Persons are
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> technical service
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> contractors and therefore it would be doable for the Sugar
>>>> Labs
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oversight
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Board to approve the required funds.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Software Freedom Conservancy Conflict of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interest Policy, a conflicted PLC Person must abstain from
>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> must not
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hear nor read the pre-vote discussions of the matter.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore* I will not vote nor participate in any pre-vote
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of this matter.*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings and thanks in advance!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 1: Artwork shared at Sugar Network - English
>>>> Class
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Hilda
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 2: Official Conflict of Interest Policy of
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Conservancy
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 3: Spam Comments on Sugar Network
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>> >>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>> Laura V.
>>>> >>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> >>>>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >>>>> Laura V.
>>>> >>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”
>>>> >>>>> ~ Niels Bohr
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> >>>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> >>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Laura V.
>>>> >> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>> >> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Happy Learning!
>>>> >> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>>> >> #LearningByDoing
>>>> >> #Projects4good
>>>> >> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> SLOBs mailing list
>>>> >> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Walter Bender
>>>> > Sugar Labs
>>>> > http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>> > <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura V.
>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>
>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
>>> #LearningByDoing
>>> #Projects4good
>>> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SLOBs mailing list
>>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
> ~ Laura Victoria
>
> Happy Learning!
> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo
> #LearningByDoing
> #Projects4good
> #IMakeATSugarLabs
>
>
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