[IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

[Laura Vargas]

2016-06-17 21:37 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>:

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> On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
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>> 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>:
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>>> On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
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>>>> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the
>>>> conversation on the IEP list.
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>>> Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at OLPC to join this
>>> list.
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>> Could you please explain why?
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> Most adults do not 'get' internet culture: They do not participate on the
> net any more than they have to, beyond connecting with friends and family
> they know face to face. There is no participation in any online
> communities; they do not understand why discussing with strangers on the
> internet could be valuable - it is just a waste of time, from their
> perspective, and they weigh the downsides - not only having their ideas and
> ideologies criticised, but often personally attacked - much heavier than we
> (we who do participate) do.
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> In working with teams at both small and large companies over the years,
> despite working on tech products directly related to the internet, I have
> met _many_ people who have no interest in internet culture. There is
> nothing about them online. They have their families, their sports/social
> clubs, their TV magazines and other "old media";  they perform labour that
> they learned to do in their early 20s at college, and learn new aspects of
> their work through training courses that their employer provides.
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> And this is only my impression, but it is my impression that the company
> culture at OLPC Inc today is one of mainstream normality: good, friendly,
> kind people who work in their office diligently at regular hours, and are
> not obsessed with their work, and do not take their work home with them,
> and have zero patience for anything other that professional, courteous
> interactions, that involved respected lines of authority.
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> I have this impression not from speaking with Leah, but by browsing their
> web properties - homepage, wiki, mailing lists, etc - which are all very
> old, and not updated this year (except the blog) - and their total absence
> not only from recent discussions but the archives too.
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>> - OLPC offered XO-1.75 and XO-4 upgrade kits in the past, to upgrade
>>>>> XO-1s, but they didn't sell that well; she agreed with Tony's assessment
>>>>> that users will run the XO-1 until it fails, and OLPC has no EOL date in
>>>>> mind
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>>>>> - OLPC is still offering XO-4s (touch and non-touch) with a minimum
>>>>> order of 100 units through the end of this year for sure, and has a few
>>>>> units in stock in Miami if anyone wants to buy just one or two; and Leah
>>>>> said they could look into updating the laptop.org website to make the
>>>>> offer public
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>>>> I belive SL business is the software We should not pay for any hardware
>>>> (besides the servers) that must be provided from PC manufacturers for
>>>> development ans testing. We already have experience with Intell locally.
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>>> You do not think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds?
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>> Can you also please explain what is what you are proposing?
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> I think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds, and to make
> these developers more effective at meeting the needs of Sugar users, the
> majority of which are XO-1 users.
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You think SL should sell hardware to non-community developers?

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>> - OLPC is now also offering a newer model, a classmate-spec machine, and
>>>>> will send me details about this; its rugged and branded but not got the
>>>>> pixel qi screen.
>>>>> - OLPC only ships Sugar, and is very happy with it, and wants to
>>>>> support the developer community although isn't sure how to so;
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>>>> And we are very happy supporting the OLPCs too. We would like to
>>>> continue doing so in a sustainable way for active members. We should let
>>>> them know, we are developing a thematic fund structure for OLPC and other
>>>> "investors" to be able to directorate the resources into specific projects.
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>>> I agree that they ought to be one of the many companies we approach for
>>> funding in the future :)
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>> I read from your email they are ready to "support the developer
>> community" so *let's not keep everybody waiting*!
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>> :D
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> What are the concrete next steps to take along that path?
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If OLPC wants to support the developer community, we could ask them to fund
one or two "Sugar Fellowships" (a merit-based financial aid) one for the
infrastructure team and one for the development team.



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> Cheers
> Dave
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