[IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

[Walter Bender]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:

>
> On 2 June 2016 at 11:27, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The motion as drafted in the PDF above does not require Bernie to speak
>>> with Person X to ask permission to buy things under $Y; it does mean that
>>> Person X _could_ disapprove the spending, but I don't think we should worry
>>> about that. If push came to shove, Bernie could get SLOB to approve it
>>> directly.
>>>
>>
>> This last statement makes no sense to me.  Bernie "does not" need to ask
>> permission but his purchase may be "disapproved"?
>>
>
> Right. Bernie can go ahead and make the purchase on the assumption that it
> is reasonable and will be approved.
>
> If on the off-chance that he and the FM disagreed about the purchase, he
> would have recourse in SLOBs directly. If SLOBS disapproved the spending,
> he's out of pocket.
>
>
>> Or is the intention to *add* another person separate from any concrete
>> goals within the organization some unilateral spending privileges?  If the
>> latter, what problem are we solving?
>>
>
> The recent domain renewal is a great case study about why we want to add
> another person separate from any concrete goals; that person acts as a
> 'catch all' or 'back stop' to solve the problem that there is a small
> expense that needs to be covered quickly but without a formally structured
> role in place it isn't clear who can approve the spending.
>

This example is broken. Bernie in fact is the one whom should have been
approached as head of the infrastructure team and he could have approved
the spending unilaterally. But I cry "uncle". You and Caryl seem so
convinced that we need an FM in the middle to approve things, I am willing
to give it a try. Your passion carries the day. Let's see what the rest of
the oversight board thinks.

>
> If you still find yourself puzzled by the motivations for more structure,
> I recommend a close reading of http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm
> - I found it very enlightening as to the problems inherent in
> flat/distributed/self-empowered organizations :)
>

I am puzzled and will read the article before the meeting.

-walter



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