[IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 100, Issue 21
Tony Anderson
tony_anderson at usa.net
Sun Jul 10 04:09:22 EDT 2016
To be repetitive: our goal should be to support localization at our
Sugar deployments. If possible, we should enlist the help of people at
the deployment sites since they have the indispensable knowledge for
translation - a native knowledge of the local language and andequate
knowledge of the source language.
The purpose of the Lion.activity is to help this along. So far I have
not received only one comment on Lion - not one from someone who tried it.
Tony
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> 1. Re: Priority languages to translate Sugar (Sebastian Silva)
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> (Samuel Greenfeld)
> 3. Re: North American native languages (was Re: #Documentation
> SL Funding Committe) (Caryl Bigenho)
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:25:15 -0500
> From: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
> To: Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>, iaep
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> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Priority languages to translate Sugar
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> El 09/07/16 a las 01:48, Laura Vargas escribió:
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>> Recalling Claudia's proposal to make a priority languages list for
>> Sugar translations, here in Perú I did an informal survery with the
>> team of the Dirección de Lenguas Indígenas del Ministerio de Cultura,
>> and noticing we already have Quechua, Aymara and Awajún, they
>> suggested (in no specific order):
>>
>> - Ashaninka http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/ashaninka
>> - Wampis http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/wampis
>> - Shipibo http://bdpi.cultura.gob.pe/pueblo/shipibo-konibo
> Let's add Cherokee, possibly Navajo and Lakota?
>
> To better word a phrase I wrote in another thread:
> I do believe the mere possibility of attaining fluency in technology and
> properly appropriable informatics holds the promise to empower native
> cultures to better cope with modernity and even assume leadership in it.
>> Is someone managing such list already?
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> IRC kaametza
>>
>> Happy Learning!
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:12:23 -0400
> From: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
> To: Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>
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> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Fwd: Please Help Support OLPC
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> Not that unusual; I've seen a few fundraising emails like this from time to
> time.
>
> More interesting (at least having worked for them) is that they moved from
> a portion of the 11th floor of a building in Miami to a single room on the
> 3rd to a new building entirely.
>
> Doubly interesting is that the building they moved into happens to be the
> same as the Knight Foundation
> http://www.knightfoundation.org/about/contact/
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> I do not know if there is a correlation.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
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>> Interesting :)
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Aaron D Borden <adborden at live.com>
>> Date: 9 July 2016 at 04:04
>> Subject: [OLPC-SF] Fwd: Please Help Support OLPC
>> To: olpc-sf at lists.laptop.org
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>>
>> Some activity from OLPC. They're running a fundraiser!
>>
>> http://us12.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b4e697fcc915b7fe33b6f6273&id=61e9cdfc06
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>>> Subject: Please Help Support OLPC
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>>> Reply-To: One Laptop per Child, Inc. <info at laptop.org>
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>> http://us12.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b4e697fcc915b7fe33b6f6273&id=61e9cdfc06
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>> Cheers
>> Dave
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> From: Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> To: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
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> Subject: Re: [IAEP] North American native languages (was Re:
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> I have contacted people from the Crow here in MT and Objibway in another state. You have to deal with the Tribal Councils and they are really to busy to deal with things like this.
>
> As I said before, to be successful in the USA you have to work bottom up. Start with the classroom teachers. Convince them that this will make their jobs easier and that their students may score better on their Standardized Tests and that it is totally free, easy to integrate into the curriculum, and fun for the students and you will have a "winner."
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>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> El 09/07/16 a las 10:10, Caryl Bigenho escribió:
>>> We may be able to get an easy entry point by executing the translation of Sugar to Cherokee and/or Navajo. [3]
>>>
>>> [3] http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140606-why-we-must-save-dying-languages
>> While Laura proposed to prioritize these in the context of promoting Sugar on the broader US community, I offer that the experience of localizing Sugar for these groups is a goal in itself, as a learning experience for further work. As the article explains, there is wisdom embedded in the words of the languages of peoples who have lived in these territories for thousands of years. This is part of humanity's legacy and should not be lost.
>>
>> I do believe the mere possibility fluency in technology and properly appropriable informatics has the power to empower native cultures to better cope with modernity and even assume leadership in it.
>>
>> Perhaps we can learn from them how to exist under a dominant culture (proprietary software).
>> The dominant culture has everyone engulfed in a dreamspell that makes it hard to see what is important.
>>
>> That said, for sure, Sugarizer should be part of what gets translated when we discuss translating Sugar.
>>
>> Does anyone in these lists have contact with native north-american people? Have we heard from the Mexican language efforts? I would ping some contacts for US based natives if there could be support for achieving this.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> PS: do read, if you can, the linked article it is quite enlightening
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