[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Approach

Gonzalo Odiard godiard at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 08:50:08 EST 2016

+1 to Sam comments.
I think we should ask before implement a digital  tool:
Why X should be done with a computer?
Is better than do it with real paper, pencils, scissors, etc?
Enable anything new?
Scale better?
Can reach more users?

Just my two cent


On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Sam P. <sam at sam.today> wrote:

> Hi Samson,
> They are interesting in a way, and they seem to have a nice presentation
> editor.  Maybe that could be something to hack with the new collab text
> editor apis?
> But I disagree with their approach many ways.  I was chatting with some
> people about this and struggled to see pedagogical use of many of their
> tools:
> * "Quickfire" quiz thing - is talking to students hard?  Is it hard to get
> them to pass you an answer on paper?  Well, spend a lot of time setting up
> some computer thing instead!
> * "Discuss" - too hard to get kids to put up hands to discuss something?
> Too hard to get them into groups?  Too hard to "pair share pair" or
> whatever strategy?  Have them talk at each other over the internet, after
> wasting time fussing with tech.
> * "Team Up" - too hard to get them into groups irl?  Too hard to let them
> talk so they can work together?  Too hard to use a normal presentation app
> to make slides?  Use this thing!
> Overall, I think this represents an interesting trend in edu tech - making
> normal classroom things digital.  This is a trend that I view as useless
> from my experiences.  These are not useful tools for teachers to teach
> with, it doesn't let the kids make things or research things.  The
> currently successful devices in edu tech seem to be chromebooks - which
> don't add a single thing that is educational.  Instead they have
> collaboration for word processing, slides, etc.  Real tools for making real
> stuff.
> Spiral does make me thing about what our approach should be though (hint:
> not like spiral) - making tools for kids to work together and make stuff.
> Tools that teachers can use in their lesson plans.
> Thanks,
> Sam
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM, samson goddy <samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Someone tweeted @sugar_labs via twitter, asking if the sugarlabs might be
>> interested in this application. But it seems like she does not know that
>> Sugar Labs has an OS. But the interesting thing is the approach about the
>> application. It will be really good to have something like this as an
>> activity in Sugar OS so it might make work for teachers in school easier.
>> Here is the link to the site http://spiral.ac/r/miB
>> Samson
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