[IAEP] [SLOBS] Debian complaints
tony_anderson at usa.net
Sat Dec 17 15:05:44 EST 2016
Of course, we need qualified volunteers to undertake the task. So far,
our release managers have provided support for osbuild but have not
undertaken to provide a release intended for adoption by a general user
or by a institutional deployment. The Sugar Labs web site offers
releases for many platforms, but the email discussion shows that none of
these can really be considered a stable, tested release.
It appears that the Debian repository, if updated for 0.110 and then
passing the Debian test procedures should be the proper basis for a
Raspbian and Ubuntu release.
I would hope our community has some one with the skills and
determination to take this on.
On 12/17/2016 09:34 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> I cannot separate the desire to have an easy install on Debian from
> the work needed to achieve that goal. Hence my asking that we expand
> this discussion to include those who might be able to help us do that
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net
> <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
> Hi, Walter
> We again seem to have a problem in communication. My concern is
> not to solve a specific problem. My concern is to leverage this
> Debian process to help
> Sugar Labs offer an effective release of Sugar that can become a
> viable alternative for educators to implement. This can not
> require specific technical knowledge such as the sugar developers
> have, but the ability to install Sugar on an ordinary laptop. This
> is handled by Libre Office. I can install Libre Office on an Xo
> with the following script:
> echo 'install libreoffice'
> cd libreoffice
> sudo rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> cd $here
> where libreoffice is a directory containing the Libre Office rpms.
> This requires no access to the internet nor any special technical
> skills. The
> overall script is
> cd /run/media/olpc/xo175
> bash xo-custom
> where xo175 is the label of the USB drive.
> Why can't we have something as simple for Sugar? Debian seems to
> be spending some effort to package Sugar in their repository. Why
> can't we expend
> a little effort so that Sugar can be installed by dpkg -i sugar?
> I addressed this to SLOBS because I think this is a Sugar Labs
> issue, not a technical one.
> On 12/17/2016 04:50 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>> None of this seems like it would be difficult to resolve. We need
>> to find someone who is in the debian world to jump in. Can you
>> cross post to sugar-devel?
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Tony Anderson
>> <tony_anderson at usa.net <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
>> I continue to get messages like this - I suspect because I
>> signed up for pkg-sugar-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org
>> <mailto:pkg-sugar-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org>. However,
>> there doesn't appear to be anyone from the Sugar community
>> Format: 1.8
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:10:30 +0100
>> Source: sugar-imageviewer-activity
>> Binary: sugar-imageviewer-activity
>> Architecture: source all
>> Version: 62-3
>> Distribution: unstable
>> Urgency: medium
>> Maintainer: Debian Sugar
>> Team<pkg-sugar-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org
>> <mailto:pkg-sugar-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org>>
>> Changed-By: Jonas Smedegaard<dr at jones.dk <mailto:dr at jones.dk>>
>> sugar-imageviewer-activity - Sugar Learning Platform - image
>> viewing activity
>> sugar-imageviewer-activity (62-3) unstable; urgency=medium
>> * Update copyright info:
>> + Update URLs to reflect new Github home.
>> + Extend coverage for Debian packaging.
>> * Declare compliance with Debian Policy 3.9.8.
>> * Fix broken path in desktop file.
>> * Have git-buildpackage filter any .git* file.
>> * Modernize CDBS use:
>> + Generalize resolving build-dependency on python.
>> + Build-depend on licensecheck (not devscripts).
>> Is there anyone who cares? Since Sugar Labs does not make a
>> Debian release of Sugar, perhaps we should tell Debian to
>> drop Sugar and forget about it.
>> Naturally, we would be turning our back on the opportunity to
>> create a Sugar release for Debian which would install on
>> Ubuntu and Raspbian and. potentially, Windows 10.
>> SLOBs mailing list
>> SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:SLOBs at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
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