[IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

Clearly we should be looking for people who are supporting or sponsoring 
XO deployments with Sugar. You also did not mention
contributors to Sugar activities. What about contributors to 
support-gang (albeit an olpc list)? What about developers and users of
xsce (school server)?

Tony

On 08/06/2016 04:11 PM, iaep-request at lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
> Send IAEP mailing list submissions to
> 	iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	iaep-request at lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	iaep-owner at lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of IAEP digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>     1. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Caryl Bigenho)
>     2. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Dave Crossland)
>     3. Re: Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election (Samson Goddy)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:57:44 -0700
> From: Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org>
> To: Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>, "iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org"
> 	<iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>,
> 	"sebastian at fuentelibre.org" <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
> Message-ID: <BLU176-W2F0A89FE1192F228B9250CC180 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Hi Folks…
> A few minutes away from "Camp Grandma and Grandpa" to check emails (it's nap time).
> This is all well and good, however in the past (when I first joined Sugar Labs) members had to qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to Sugar Labs. This could be development of software or hardware, having a small deployment, hosting Sugar Labs and OLPC events, and the like. We didn't simply say, "Hey, why don't you sign up and be a member?"
> What you are suggesting seems to throw away all criteria for membership, other than a person saying, "Sure, sign me up."
> This cheapens both the organization and discounts the efforts of the many, many members who have done so much work in the past.
> I do think getting the membership list up-to-date in a timely manner is a great idea and I am glad Dave is volunteering to do the job. The list we were left with for last year's election was a total mess and the names  of many folks, who were long time contributors, were missing. Hopefully we caught all of them by sending numerous emails keeping everyone up-to-date on the progress of the election. Many replied with "Hey, how come I didn't get my ballot yet?
> I urge caution in going forward with this. We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with current valid email addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any kind) who desire to be members. Bigger isn't better in this case. Quantity definitely does not mean quality.
> Caryl
> Now, off to get my nap! Five-year-olds can be exhausting and if she is napping now, she will go to bed late tonight!
> From: dave at lab6.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:45:12 -0400
> To: iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org; caryl at laptop.org; sebastian at fuentelibre.org
> Subject: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
>
>
> Hi
> In today's meeting, Seb mentioned the 2017 SLOB election is coming up fast and should happen in (early) December.
> The election commitee last year was Samson, Caryl, and Sebastian, and Seb invited me to join, which I am happy to :)
> I suggest we start making steady progress and update the community at each monthly SLOB meeting for the next 4 meetings that remain this year.
> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
> 1. Walter Bender2. Lionel Laské3. Adam Holt4. Sameer Verma5. Claudia Urrea6. Tony Anderson7. Jose Miguel Garcia
> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this year.
> The first thing I think needs to be done is to get a confirmed list of members. I can take care of it this month.
> Currently the member list is maintained in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Seb confirmed members were not contacted so far this year; the only activity is to add some new members to the sheet this year. Walter suggested a mass email to ask members to confirm/update their member status, and indeed it seems to me that the #1 purpose of the sheet is to have a list of people to email about Sugar Labs business.
> So I propose that, since at the last meeting a motion to ask members for dinero passed, and since I have a large list of everyone who ever mailed a SL mailing list, everyone who every made a wiki account, and this members spreadsheet, I will mail all these people once to ask if they want to be 'members,' which I propose to define as having an email registed on a sugarlabs-annouce mailing list. This way there is no ambiguity that only paying members are members; instead it can be clear anyone on that mailing list is a member, and no payment is needed. I think it would be good to promise not to mail this announce list more than once a calendar month, and to configure the list as a public list where joining is moderated and so is emailing the list (ie, it can only be made by authorized persons.) Seb supported this idea.
> For people who are not on the list, it seems there is already a procedure defined for how to deal with them. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Currency_assurance_policy says, "In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of the current status of the project and its participants, once a year members will be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If this request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has been a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six months have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an invitation to reapply." Therefore 6 months after this email, I can send a known-good list of accounts to remove from the wiki and we'll have a definitive active members list.
> So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
> - I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-announce at lists.sugarlabs.org mailing list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.
> - I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones that look like spammers
> - I will make a final 'all possible members' email list
> - I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the election email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review
> - I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion
> Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with the new list of members and similarly to before another draft email soliciting board applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October meeting.
> Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the donation request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that SLOB can review and approve in the November meeting.
> Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can come in, and in early December the results can be announced.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep 		 	   		
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20160805/e71a3550/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:11:20 -0400
> From: Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>
> To: Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org>
> Cc: "iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org" <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson
> 	Goddy <samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>,  "sebastian at fuentelibre.org"
> 	<sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAEozd0wiz=iWXQe9dm9w6zUuaY3KC70hrvJgJoyr_jJTA9ButA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi
>
> Glad to hear you were able to get some rest :D
>
> On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org> wrote:
>> ...
>> qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to
> Sugar Labs
>> [by] development of software or hardware, having a small deployment,
> hosting Sugar
>> Labs and OLPC events
>> ...
>> We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with
> current
>> valid email addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any
> kind)
>> who desire to be members.
> I agree that we could clarify how we determine what level of contribution
> counts to make one eligible for membership.
>
> I propose the following are sufficient:
>
> - owning a computer or being part of an organization that owns computers
> that regularly use Sugar
>
> - creating a wiki account and making 1 edit to the wiki
>
> - posting to a SL mailing list
>
> - contributing a patch to a sugar software package
>
> - owning a laptop.org or sugarlabs.org email account, now or in the past
>
> What are possible verifiable criteria are possible? Should any of these not
> count?
>
> :)
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20160805/07110b92/attachment-0001.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 15:09:54 +0100
> From: Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
> To: Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>, Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org>
> Cc: iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>, Samson Goddy
> 	<samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org>
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
> Message-ID: <DUB125-W49D631470E1390C37DB670B3190 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Yeah nice one dave! i will think of more!
> From: dave at lab6.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:11:20 -0400
> To: caryl at laptop.org
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election
> CC: iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org
>
> Hi
> Glad to hear you were able to get some rest :D
> On 5 August 2016 at 18:57, Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org> wrote:
>> ...> qualify by actually making some tangible "contribution" (not money) to Sugar Labs> [by] development of software or hardware, having a small deployment, hosting Sugar > Labs and OLPC events> ...> We should end up with, hopefully, a complete, up-to-date list, with current > valid email addresses, of all contributors to Sugar Labs projects (of any kind) > who desire to be members.
> I agree that we could clarify how we determine what level of contribution counts to make one eligible for membership.
> I propose the following are sufficient:
> - owning a computer or being part of an organization that owns computers that regularly use Sugar
>
> - creating a wiki account and making 1 edit to the wiki
> - posting to a SL mailing list
> - contributing a patch to a sugar software package
>
> - owning a laptop.org or sugarlabs.org email account, now or in the past
>
> What are possible verifiable criteria are possible? Should any of these not count?
> :)
> CheersDave
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep 		 	   		
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20160806/9160ac96/attachment.html>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of IAEP Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6
> ************************************