[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi!

Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else
happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided
on at the next SLOB meeting?

Samson, some more questions below:

On 6 April 2016 at 08:00, samson goddy <samsongoddy at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Thanks for the question Dave, Let me explain why the Yoruba came with
> the price $6,000. Originally, The Yoruba come with a price of 1500 USD.
> About the Internet plan in Nigeria is quite expensive. Like i told Tony,
> getting a portable internet connection plus the device cost about $300 a
> month.
>

Which provider/offer is this? :)


> I also explained that getting anything related to tech is also expensive
> in Nigeria. For example getting an iphone6 plus might cost about $700-800
> in USA or amazon, with the current exchange rate of 200 Nigerian naira to 1
> dollar doesn't make everything in Nigeria cheaper. To get that same phone
> in Nigeria is about 250,000 naira here in Nigeria that about 1255.0225 US
> Dollar, you see the difference. India or USA is not Nigeria these country
> has a stable economy. You could do you research about Nigeria economy
> currently and see for yourself.
>

I understand - India is pretty similar to that :)

Is the breakdown of the $6k something like this?

$1,500 translation
$  900 portable net @ $300/month x 3 months
$3,600 laptops

If there are other items, it seems the laptop is surely a larger item in
the breakdown. So I wonder about the possibility of leasing/renting
laptops. Eg I found http://xtramindsconcept.com.ng/laptops who advertise
they leased a classroom of laptops to Google Nigeria. While that is in
Lagos, I expect if you can visit a dozen computer repair shops, you could
probably charm one of them to rent you some old stock for a good price.

And there's also the 2nd hand market. Looking on olx.com I found a couple
of nearly-new laptops for around USD$400 in Port Harcourt:

https://www.olx.com.ng/ad/1-month-used-hp-pavilion-dv7-corei7-with-radeon-graphics-beat-audio-ID15HCC1.html

https://www.olx.com.ng/ad/7months-old-hp-pavillion-for-sale-ID15I6yI.html
(although you might also need that charm, "Carefully and softly used by a
girl and so I wish a girl will also buy it" it says ;)

I also find the $300/month mobile data cost high. How many Gb of data will
you need?

It seems that, new, its N15,000 ($USD75) for a hotspot wifi -
http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/devices/portable-wifi-routers/ - and
N5,000 (USD$25) for 5Gb of data -
http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/data/data-plans/ - which can be doubled
by working on a "campus" -
http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/data/glo-campus-data-booster/ - and
such hotspots can also be bought for around 1/3 of that price on olx.com

Finally, how many translators would be involved for the $1,500, which is
spent over 12 weeks? :)

"Can some of these XO laptops be recovered/recycled. The owners are now in
> their late teens and probably wanting to use smartphones or standard
> laptops. They may be willing to sell them for a relatively small amount
> given that the local demand for XOs is probably negligible. These could be
> refurbished and deployed either to support a local hackerspace or to supply
> enough for one class at a local school."? yes they can. Those who don't
> want to use the xo any more normally give them to their young ones to use.
>

That's great! :)


> "Finally, I think it would be cool to think about this funding as
> investment, rather than just straight funding. You are going go through the
> effort of finding people to translate, teaching them about Sugar, getting
> new hardware for Sugar related projects, etc etc! It is a lot :) So, if you
> do all that, I recommend thinking about how to use that built up energy and
> value in a way that can move towards self-funding this kind of effort. For
> example, offering workshops business model, because the risks can be
> minimized and it can have low overheads, and there are several markets for
> them - eg, offering sugar workshops to wealthier communities of parents who
> are passionate about these languages; or, partnering with existing IT
> training businesses."? Yes that is want i have in mind to do.
>

:D


>  Yes i would create Sugar Labs workshops, in Port Harcourt probably in
> other parts of Nigeria too. These workshop will bring more users to the
> sugar community, uses the xo's, Sugar on stick, sugarizer. It will be a
> whole new word for Nigerians. I already find partners  for the workshop.
> And also i would really like if some one from Sugar Labs community will be
> present too e.g like walter for Musics Blocks and Turtle art JS. Also most
> of this questions you are answer is already been answered. I am spending a
> lot of $ in cyber cafe. So i can't really answer all your questions. like i
> said before SLOBs should invest in this proposal probably this April(i am
> not forcing the issue) so that things can be done quicker. and i can be
> able to start planing for workshops.
>

I am not a SLOB (nor even am I a Member, yet :) but I would like to see
that, even if the primary purpose of the funds is translation, that this
proposal can catalyse the nigeria deployments "graduates" into contributors
- hopefully long term.

So I'd like to suggest that you add more of these ideas into the proposal
document, so that it can be turned into a motion at the next SLOB meeting.

-- 
Cheers
Dave
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