[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

Iain Brown Douglas iain at browndouglas.plus.com
Wed May 20 05:33:33 EDT 2015


On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 11:39 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> Iain, Sean, Sam,
> 
> 
> _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_.
> 
Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice.

My apologies to the other contributors, Sam, Walter and Sean for
clouding their perfectly useful work.

The text that I have called the "Walter/Sam contribution" is on this
thread.

Sean's "improved" text reads:

#-#

Sugar on a Stick is a Fedora-based operating system featuring the
award-winning Sugar Learning Platform and designed to fit on an ordinary
USB thumbdrive ("stick").

Sugar sets aside the traditional "office-desktop" metaphor, presenting a
child-friendly simple graphical environment. Sugar automatically saves
the child's progress to a "Journal" on your stick, so teachers and
parents can easily pull up "all collaborative web browsing sessions done
in the past week" or "papers written with Daniel and Sarah in the last
24 hours" with a simple query rather than memorizing complex file/folder
structures. Applications in Sugar are known as Activities, some of which
are described below.

It is now deployable for the cost of a stick rather than a laptop;
students can take their Sugar on a Stick thumbdrive to any machine - at
school, at home, at a library or community center - and boot their
customized computing environment without touching the host machine's
hard disk or existing system at all.

#-#

I feel that this is the limit of my ability to achieve consensus.

I have a plain text copy of the above two elements plus Sean's
proof_reading_corrections, if it is required.

Iain

> Peter,
> when need this be finished?
> 
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson
> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>         On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
>         <iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
>         > On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 15:00 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>         >> >> > Hi Peter,
>         >> >> >
>         >> >> > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:01 PM Peter Robinson
>         <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >> >> >>
>         >> >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
>         >> >> >> <iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
>         >> >> >> > Thanks, Sean, for the careful proof reading.
>         >> >> >> >
>         >> >> >> > Fair copy attached.
>         >> >> >> >
>         >> >> >> > I originally included the section "Multimedia", as
>         it is the set of
>         >> >> >> > Activities in
>         http://spins.stg.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/
>         >> >> >> > but not in the Walter/Sam contribution.
>         >> >> >> >
>         >> >> >> > I think it is the weakest section. Chat jars a bit
>         on the page, as
>         >> >> >> > "Chat" is used in the "Spins page template" to
>         refer to IRC.
>         >> >> >> >
>         >> >> >> > My memory is that Jukebox is not part of the core
>         set (due to non-free
>         >> >> >> > components?).
>         >> >> >>
>         >> >> >> You're memory is wrong! It uses gstreamer and there a
>         number of free
>         >> >> >> codecs that come as standard.
>         >> > Thanks, Peter, for the correction.
>         >> >
>         >> > So as a heading, ==Multimedia== containing Jukebox,
>         Record, Imageviewer
>         >> > you feel should remain?
>         >>
>         >> I really don't care what it's called but those three are
>         staying,
>         >> right where they are. A lot of people want to view photos,
>         listen to
>         >> music etc. As to what it's called, I'm not particularly
>         bothered.
>         >>
>         >> >> Maybe you could download SoaS 22 and
>         >> >> >> actually test it and see what's there!
>         >> >> >>
>         >> >> >> > Perhaps the section Multimedia as it stands should
>         be deleted.
>         >> >> >>
>         >> >> >> Not going to happen. This isn't time for
>         bikeshedding, it's time for
>         >> >> >> tweaking the content as it stands.
>         >> >> >
>         >> >> >
>         >> >> > Talking about the headers is not bikeshedding.  The
>         headers on the page are
>         >> >> > not very relevant to an education focused desktop
>         environment - they are
>         >> >> > headers for a traditional dekstop environment.
>         >> >>
>         >> >> I was talking about "Multimedia as it stands should be
>         deleted" so I
>         >> >> have no idea why you're talking about the header names.
>         I have stated
>         >> >> before the header names need to be updated. I'm still
>         awaiting what
>         >> >> they should be updated to.
>         >> >
>         >> > ... awaiting?
>         >> >
>         >> >         Understanding and creating content
>         >> >         Learning by doing
>         >> >         Getting technical
>         >> >         Exploring the wider world
>         >> >         Multimedia
>         >> >         Reflection on what you've learned
>         >> >
>         >> > is from earlier contributions and both my attachments to
>         this thread.
>         >>
>         >> As I've said to Sean before, I don't have the time to
>         reconcile
>         >> opinions coming in from a number of locations.
>         > Peter, that is why I have tried to help by drawing the
>         contributions
>         > onto one attachment, are you receiving your email without
>         attachments?
>         
>         
>         No, I drop all attachments from mailing lists unless they are
>         text
>         patches, they're generally just spam or viruses.
>         
>         In plain text inline emails please.
>         
>         I want ONE update. I don't have the time to merge them. I've
>         already
>         wasted a lot of time I really don't have on this!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gonzalo Odiard
> 
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