[IAEP] Will anything change this time?

[Gonzalo Odiard]

I suppose a committee will be integrated by more than one member, we need
more volunteers.


On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org> wrote:

> If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine with me, how do
> we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with his wife
> running for office, and himself running the election?
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva <
> sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>
>>  Yes,
>> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email:
>>
>> *I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014.*
>> * I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, as
>> per the governance model.*
>>
>> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió:
>>
>> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections committee
>> to replace Luke.
>>
>>  Gonzalo
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sebastian,
>>>
>>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public
>>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the
>>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be
>>> concrete in your proposal.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva
>>> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at the end
>>> of
>>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say:
>>> >
>>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, consisting of
>>> seven (7)
>>> > members elected by the Sugar community--the Sugar Membership. The
>>> positions
>>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The
>>> members of
>>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any time by a
>>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation or
>>> removal of a
>>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall elect a
>>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board.
>>> >
>>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections should
>>> not
>>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee.
>>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA.
>>> >
>>> > At any rate this course of events should've been discussed/announced
>>> to the
>>> > Sugar Labs members.
>>> >
>>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with expired period
>>> would
>>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates would be
>>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, except no
>>> > shortage).
>>> >
>>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014.
>>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board,
>>> as per
>>> > the governance model.
>>> >
>>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the gruntwork
>>> to run
>>> > the election.
>>> >
>>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish and the
>>> > accepted oversight board.
>>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow
>>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members :
>>> >
>>> > Currency assurance policy[edit]
>>> >
>>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective
>>> of the
>>> > current status of the project and its participants, once a year
>>> members will
>>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If
>>> this
>>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has
>>> been
>>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six
>>> months
>>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an
>>> invitation to
>>> > reapply.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin working with
>>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about the election
>>> > process.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Sebastian
>>> >
>>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió:
>>> >
>>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term replacements
>>> due to
>>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth amending
>>> them
>>> > to include.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender <
>>> walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer candidates
>>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another
>>> >> election at the end of 2015.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards.
>>> >>
>>> >> -walter
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org
>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions at that
>>> >> > time...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we have enough
>>> >> > candidates.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas <
>>> laura at somosazucar.org>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to me be
>>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members with long
>>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown interest,
>>> like
>>> >> >>> I have
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi Laura,
>>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature?
>>> >> >> You only needed add your name to
>>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two candidates to
>>> >> >> fill 4
>>> >> >> seats.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Gonzalo
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>  Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run a
>>> >> >>> democratic community soon!
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org
>>> >:
>>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian,
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the
>>> deployments
>>> >> >>> > confidential
>>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without naming the
>>> >> >>> > deployment
>>> >> >>> > involved.
>>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in negotiation
>>> >> >>> > with
>>> >> >>> > countries will understand.
>>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware
>>> with X
>>> >> >>> > software,
>>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure.
>>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the
>>> members
>>> >> >>> >> fro
>>> >> >>> >> SLOBs,
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern?
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email.
>>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying
>>> something
>>> >> >>> > different.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community and
>>> >> >>> >> teachers,
>>> >> >>> >> like
>>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> And?
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Gonzalo
>>> >> >>> >
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>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> Laura V.
>>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>> >> >>> IRC kaametza
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Happy Learning!
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Laura V.
>>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>> >> > IRC kaametza
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Happy Learning!
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter Bender
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  Gonzalo Odiard
>>
>> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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