[IAEP] Will anything change this time?

[Adam Holt]

If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine with me, how do
we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with his wife
running for office, and himself running the election?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
wrote:

>  Yes,
> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email:
>
> *I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014.*
> * I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, as
> per the governance model.*
>
> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian
>
> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió:
>
> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections committee
> to replace Luke.
>
>  Gonzalo
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sebastian,
>>
>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public
>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the
>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be
>> concrete in your proposal.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva
>> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at the end of
>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say:
>> >
>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, consisting of seven
>> (7)
>> > members elected by the Sugar community--the Sugar Membership. The
>> positions
>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The
>> members of
>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any time by a
>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation or removal
>> of a
>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall elect a
>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board.
>> >
>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections should not
>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee.
>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA.
>> >
>> > At any rate this course of events should've been discussed/announced to
>> the
>> > Sugar Labs members.
>> >
>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with expired period
>> would
>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates would be
>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, except no
>> > shortage).
>> >
>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014.
>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, as
>> per
>> > the governance model.
>> >
>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the gruntwork
>> to run
>> > the election.
>> >
>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish and the
>> > accepted oversight board.
>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow
>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members :
>> >
>> > Currency assurance policy[edit]
>> >
>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of
>> the
>> > current status of the project and its participants, once a year members
>> will
>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If
>> this
>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has
>> been
>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six
>> months
>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an
>> invitation to
>> > reapply.
>> >
>> >
>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin working with
>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment.
>> >
>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about the election
>> > process.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió:
>> >
>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term replacements
>> due to
>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth amending
>> them
>> > to include.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender <
>> walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer candidates
>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another
>> >> election at the end of 2015.
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >>
>> >> -walter
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions at that
>> >> > time...
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we have enough
>> >> > candidates.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas <
>> laura at somosazucar.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to me be
>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members with long
>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown interest,
>> like
>> >> >>> I have
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Laura,
>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature?
>> >> >> You only needed add your name to
>> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two candidates to
>> >> >> fill 4
>> >> >> seats.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gonzalo
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run a
>> >> >>> democratic community soon!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>:
>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the
>> deployments
>> >> >>> > confidential
>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without naming the
>> >> >>> > deployment
>> >> >>> > involved.
>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in negotiation
>> >> >>> > with
>> >> >>> > countries will understand.
>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware with
>> X
>> >> >>> > software,
>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure.
>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the
>> members
>> >> >>> >> fro
>> >> >>> >> SLOBs,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email.
>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying something
>> >> >>> > different.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community and
>> >> >>> >> teachers,
>> >> >>> >> like
>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> And?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Gonzalo
>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Laura V.
>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>> IRC kaametza
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Happy Learning!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard
>> >> >>
>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>> >> >
>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>> >> > IRC kaametza
>> >> >
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>> >>
>> >>
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>  Gonzalo Odiard
>
> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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