[IAEP] Will anything change this time?

[Gonzalo Odiard]

Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections committee
to replace Luke.

Gonzalo

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sebastian,
>
> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public
> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the
> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be
> concrete in your proposal.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva
> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at the end of
> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say:
> >
> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, consisting of seven
> (7)
> > members elected by the Sugar community--the Sugar Membership. The
> positions
> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The
> members of
> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any time by a
> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation or removal
> of a
> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall elect a
> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board.
> >
> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections should not
> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee.
> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA.
> >
> > At any rate this course of events should've been discussed/announced to
> the
> > Sugar Labs members.
> >
> > It could've been expected, that the board members with expired period
> would
> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates would be
> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, except no
> > shortage).
> >
> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014.
> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, as
> per
> > the governance model.
> >
> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the gruntwork to
> run
> > the election.
> >
> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish and the
> > accepted oversight board.
> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow
> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members :
> >
> > Currency assurance policy[edit]
> >
> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is reflective of
> the
> > current status of the project and its participants, once a year members
> will
> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs Member. If
> this
> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it has
> been
> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six months
> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an invitation
> to
> > reapply.
> >
> >
> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin working with
> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment.
> >
> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about the election
> > process.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sebastian
> >
> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió:
> >
> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term replacements due
> to
> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth amending
> them
> > to include.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer candidates
> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another
> >> election at the end of 2015.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> -walter
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions at that
> >> > time...
> >> >
> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we have enough
> >> > candidates.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How many additional candidates do we need?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to me be
> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members with long
> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown interest,
> like
> >> >>> I have
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Laura,
> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature?
> >> >> You only needed add your name to
> >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates
> >> >>
> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two candidates to
> >> >> fill 4
> >> >> seats.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gonzalo
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can run a
> >> >>> democratic community soon!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>:
> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the
> deployments
> >> >>> > confidential
> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without naming the
> >> >>> > deployment
> >> >>> > involved.
> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in negotiation
> >> >>> > with
> >> >>> > countries will understand.
> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware with X
> >> >>> > software,
> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure.
> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the members
> >> >>> >> fro
> >> >>> >> SLOBs,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email.
> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying something
> >> >>> > different.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community and
> >> >>> >> teachers,
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> And?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I don't understand the question.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Gonzalo
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Laura V.
> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
> >> >>> IRC kaametza
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Happy Learning!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard
> >> >>
> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Laura V.
> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
> >> >
> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire
> >> > IRC kaametza
> >> >
> >> > Happy Learning!
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> >> > IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Walter Bender
> >> Sugar Labs
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>
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>



-- 
Gonzalo Odiard

SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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