[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

Caryl Bigenho cbigenho at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 5 01:15:10 EST 2013

Last year at SCaLE George Hunt helped me get Sugar running on my RPi. Because our booth was so busy, it took parts of both Saturday and Sunday to get it going. I then tried it when I got home and found that it was prone to stalls. Of course, this was back in late February and there may have been improvements since then. If so, please let me know where to find the download and instructions for installing.
I would like to suggest we keep the idea of Sugar on the RPi in mind, but perhaps in a smaller, reduced size with only a few carefully selected Activities. Perhaps it could be called "A Taste Of Sugar."
Remember, the whole idea behind the RPi is to get young people involved in really learning about computers and computing and to do creative things with them. With this in mind, some of the Activities that could be part of a small version of Sugar might include Turtle Blocks for robotics, a small version of Tam Tam for experimenting with creating musical sounds and actually composing with loops (I realize even a tiny version of Tam Tam would be a huge undertaking, but very worthwhile), Pippy for learning Python, etc.
As we discuss where our group(s) should focus in the future, let's try not to get to bogged down in discussions of hardware platforms and software solutions. First and foremost we might want to consider the educational experience we want to make available to students. Hopefully, it will be something that fosters creativity, collaboration, and problem solving while making projects of all kinds imaginable.
> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:46:31 +1100
> From: quozl at laptop.org
> To: satellitgo at gmail.com
> CC: dwnarvaez at gmail.com; marketing at lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-sur at lists.laptop.org
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:40:51PM -0800, Thomas Gilliard wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/4/2013 4:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> > 
> >     On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >         Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting
> >         marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would be
> >         essentially unusable and have a terrible experience.
> > 
> > 
> >     Can you elaborate on why you think it would be a terrible experience on the
> >     Raspberry Pi? I never tested it there, I was just hoping it could be a nice
> >     target...
> >      
> > 
> > Look at these older tests of sugar on the RPi:
> >    http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi
> > 
> > This part of the Advanced topics wiki page on the sugarlabs wiki:
> >  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#ARM
> > 
> > Tom Gilliard
> I could not find any evidence of user experience testing, or
> performance evaluation, in the two links you gave.  Did you give the
> right ones?
> I agree with Peter, I don't think it will perform well, but I don't
> know in what way it won't perform well, so I can't guess where effort
> would have to be spent to fix it.
> (especially in comparison to an XO-1)
> -- 
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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