[IAEP] Fwd: [permaculture] Courses needed in public education institutions: Re: Who is this + 'GOT BALLS?'

[James Simmons]

Laura,

When I went to high school back around 1973 or so we did have a course in
household finances, and it was required for all students.  The only thing
it didn't cover was how to do your own taxes.  I wish it had.  I've always
done my own taxes and it amazes me how many people have no idea how the tax
codes work (even people running small businesses), and thus are easily
manipulated by politicians into supporting policies that will make them
worse off.

James Simmons

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

> Interesting points of views from the permaculture list :D
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: venaurafarm <venaurafarm at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2013/2/27
> Subject: [permaculture] Courses needed in public education institutions:
> Re: Who is this + 'GOT BALLS?'
> To: permaculture <permaculture at lists.ibiblio.org>
>
>
> On 2/27/2013 10:53 AM, deston denniston wrote:
> > Its nice to see so many people coming aware of the need to get a
> > national conversation and standard set in regards to certification.
> > Its also nice to see that the six years Ive been watching Vlad and
> > calling him a menace is finally being seen by others (there have been
> > a few, but this is the surge of awareness I had hopped to see six
> > years ago, when I had some verbal sparring right here on ibiblio with
> > him, prior to his exorcism... Yay! a national standards conversation
> > and some headway made to a national certifying body! Our permaculture
> > mind is often moribund- many people fail in permaculture 'businesses'
> > not because permaculture is flawed, but because they think it solves
> > all the problems. However, it doesn't directly model the necessary
> > actions for business success- that's not its job. It also says use
> > multiple elements for each function. So it pays to have other forms
> > and models of life assessment and arrangement to work with that are
> > complimentary to ones cash resliency and stability. With that, I
> > entreat you to check out our kickstarter project. VETS_CAFE is
> > producing Illuminated text and site designs for 2.5 acre veteran
> > owned organic  permaculture farm via a PDC. Your support gets you
> > seedballs, which we have the capacity to produce at a few hundred
> > pounds a day, and capacity increases every time we tinker with it...
> >
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/694901181/vets-cafe-a-permaculture-design-project/posts.
> ..
> > GOT BALLS?
>
> Other things people need include coursework to prepare them for economic
> survival. A high school course in 1) permaculture would be very useful
> plus 2) courses in computer programming to teach them how to think and
> 3) the following from a friend in NC:
>
> "I always used to wonder why high school students never got any
> coursework in household finances. You'd think the most important things
> they'd ever need to know would be:
>
> 1) How to do your own taxes, and take advantage of the tax code;
> 2) How to prepare (and stick to) a realistic household budget;
> 3) How to make large purchases: how to buy a car, and a house, without
>     getting ripped off;
> 4) How to understand financing paperwork; when to sign, when not to
>     sign;
> 5) How and when to sue; how to respond to being sued;
> 6) How to set up a small home business.
>
> These are the most important things everyone needs to be able to
> understand."
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