[IAEP] [support-gang] XO-4 Questions After Viewing CES video

[Mike Lee]

[I meant to copy this to the IAEP list as well...]

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Caryl,
>
> In today's Engadget video[1], the host interviews Giulia and Bob, and the
> XO-4 is never displayed. Most of the segment covers OLPC history and
> mission, then they recap the features of the new consumer tablet. One
> interesting soundbite towards the end at 17:05 when Bob is referring to
> the XO-4 Touch (he calls it the clamshell):
>
> "We're going to port that device to Android. So it's going to possible for
> a child in Africa on a clamshell to be using the same software as a child
> coming to Walmart."
>
> One way to interpret this statement is that the new "Dreams" interface
> will be ported to an Android version of the XO-4 Touch. That opens
> questions on if some deployments will opt for an Android version of the
> XO-4 Touch and if this new consumer interface is customizable as open
> source.
>
> Thinking about this, and since Guilia mentions the Journal in her demos, I
> went and took a closer look at the short hands-on video Engadget shot of
> the XO Tablet [2] as well as a higher quality clip by Jeremy Hill [3].
>
> On the new tablet, the Journal icon leads to a dashboard showing % usage
> of each of the "dream" categories (e.g. XO Artist, XO Athlete) of the
> tablet. There's nothing of the Sugar Journal there. The other My Files icon
> leads to a basic Android explorer file list. Screenshots here [4]
>
> So there's lots to think about. But one thing is for sure, the original
> concepts behind the Sugar Journal as a portfolio for reflection and sharing
> are gone.
>
> Mike
>
>
> [1] http://www.viddler.com/v/41ee1d5e (no escape from pre-roll ad)
> [2] http://www.viddler.com/v/3f7d1d50?secret=39213658 (no escape from
> pre-roll ad)
> [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzU7zJV4kFs
> [4] http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157632489475573/
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was looking for that clip and finally found it after the incorrectly
>> placed clip. Here is the direct link to the clip on Viddler where it is
>> actually hosted for Engadget:
>>
>> Live from the Engadget CES Stage: an interview with OLPC's Giulia D'Amico
>> and Bob Hacker
>> http://www.viddler.com/v/41ee1d5e
>>
>> Watching the 18:42 clip now...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Mike...
>>>
>>> Check this again. The video was made *today,* and Giulia is clearly
>>> holding and pointing to things on an XO-4, not a tablet. The link might not
>>> work right... it didn't for me. I had to go to the Engaget schedule for
>>> today, find the one for OLPC, click on it, go down below the photos, there
>>> will be a video screen with a guy on the right. Click on play. It is short.
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:51:20 -0500
>>> From: curiouslee at gmail.com
>>> To: support-gang at lists.laptop.org
>>> CC: iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; support-gang at laptop.org
>>> Subject: Re: [support-gang] XO-4 Questions After Viewing CES video
>>>
>>>
>>> Caryl,
>>>
>>> I watched the video the other day, which I should say did a good job of
>>> bringing attention to Sugar as opposed to the hardware.
>>>
>>> A press release from June 2012 about the Sesame Workshop partnership
>>> states firmly that
>>>
>>> "The educational packages for Latin America and South Africa will
>>> include content from the respective local adaptations of *Sesame Street*
>>> : *Plaza Sésamo* and *Takalani Sesame*. The fun and engaging programs
>>> will be pre-loaded onto the “XO” laptops."[1]
>>>
>>> But that doesn't necessarily mean that SW will release that content
>>> license free for Sugar. LEGO WeDo for Sugar, for example, is not freely
>>> available.
>>>
>>> I think Giulia misspoke about the intent of the Journal on the XO-4 as
>>> affording parental control. In the latest build, it is still possible to
>>> erase items.
>>>
>>> I can't see any apparent change to the interface of TamTam Mini on the
>>> XO-4 Touch. It looks like Gonzalo is still actively working on the simple
>>> piano keyboard widget[2]. Maybe he can jump in to say when it might be
>>> added to TamTam Mini.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.sesameworkshop.org/news/sesame-workshop-and-one-laptop-per-84-detail.html
>>> [2] http://git.sugarlabs.org/simplepiano
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi...
>>>
>>> I finally found the video done by Giulia D'Amico today about the XO-4 at
>>> CES. Watch it and see if you also have questions. Below you will find some
>>> of mine. Add yours below and pass it on.
>>>
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/06/marvel-olpc-4-0-ces-hands-on/
>>>
>>> Can anyone verify any of these?
>>>
>>> It sounded like she said some content from Sesame Street and others
>>> would be included in Sugar on the XO-4. Is this correct?
>>>
>>> She mentions the Journal as a means of "Parental Control." Does this
>>> mean the XO-4 may be marketed to individuals?
>>>
>>> She said the child cannot remove things from the Journal. Does this mean
>>> it will be locked? Can a teacher or parent remove things?
>>>
>>> I notice that Tam Tam is still included. Has anyone managed to make the
>>> touch-screen standard type musical keyboard available as I have been
>>> suggesting?  If so... I want to "test drive" it!  If not, I hope it is in
>>> development and want to be a "beta tester"
>>>
>>>
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