[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-02-04

[Steve Thomas]

Walter,

Thanks didn't know about the age restriction. I can use this on my two
youngest for a while to keep them off :)
I also posted to Scratch to get their feedback.

Stephen

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Kim Toufectis commented on my post [1] about online services:
> >>
> >> :Appreciative of the ideals upon which SugarLabs and OLPC formed, it’s
> >> deeply troubling to envision a commercial entity like FaceBook
> >> integrated into the Control Panel.
> >>
> >> :For a system in which a proprietary browser (Opera) or plugin (Adobe
> >> Flash) are controversial even as optional add-ons, can we really be
> >> headed for integrating a private corporation into the heart of the
> >> OS?This is very difficult to understand…
> >>
> >> My response:
> >>
> >> There are several issues raised by our proposal (none of this code has
> >> yet been reviewed and accepted):
> >>
> >> (a) Should Sugar facilitate integration with online services?
> >
> > +1  go to where the kids are.
> >
> >> (b) If so, should we do it in such a way that is service-provider
> >> agnostic?
> >
> > +1
> >
> >>
> >> (c) Why specifically are we working on a Facebook plugin?
> >>
> >> There are certainly caveats: First, Facebook is not for children.
> >
> > Really? I know a lot of children on Facebook.  Also the new Scratch 2.0
> is
> > going to have a Share to: Facebook and Twitter, along with Youtube
> uploading
> > at some point.  And look at the ages of Scratch users.
> > That said as a parents of four young ones (or as our kids call us "Ma
> and Pa
> > Luddite") we did our best to keep them off Facebook as long as possible.
> >
>
> We need to tread lightly here. The FB terms of service require 13+
> yrs. Our children are younger than that. Maybe the Scratch team thinks
> it is OK, but I am uncomfortable with encouraging children to violate
> the terms of service. That said, I suspect Facebook will address this
> issue at some point. Or some other web service provider.
>
> >>
> >> My intention is to provide a mechanism for teachers, not children.
> >
> > Why not both? Isn't our goal to engage kids? Social networking is where
> they
> > are. Of course once its there its there for both.
>
> Agreed, but see above.
>
> >
> >> Second, Facebook does not provide a place for file (project) sharing,
> >> just a place for talking about projects. We will need other services
> >> for that (dare I say, Google Drive).
> >
> > File sharing would be wonderful. +2
> >
> > It would also be nice to be able to "embed" a running project in a web
> page
> > (when we get to the point where the projects can run in a web page :)
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>
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