[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-02-04

[Steve Thomas]

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:

> Kim Toufectis commented on my post [1] about online services:
>
> :Appreciative of the ideals upon which SugarLabs and OLPC formed, it’s
> deeply troubling to envision a commercial entity like FaceBook
> integrated into the Control Panel.
>
> :For a system in which a proprietary browser (Opera) or plugin (Adobe
> Flash) are controversial even as optional add-ons, can we really be
> headed for integrating a private corporation into the heart of the
> OS?This is very difficult to understand…
>
> My response:
>
> There are several issues raised by our proposal (none of this code has
> yet been reviewed and accepted):
>
> (a) Should Sugar facilitate integration with online services?
>
+1  go to where the kids are.

(b) If so, should we do it in such a way that is service-provider agnostic?
>
+1


> (c) Why specifically are we working on a Facebook plugin?
>
> There are certainly caveats: First, Facebook is not for children.

Really? I know a lot of children on Facebook.  Also the new Scratch 2.0 is
going to have a Share to: Facebook and Twitter, along with Youtube
uploading at some point.  And look at the ages of Scratch
users<http://stats.scratch.mit.edu/community/usersbyage.html>.

That said as a parents of four young ones (or as our kids call us "Ma and
Pa Luddite") we did our best to keep them off Facebook as long as possible.


> My intention is to provide a mechanism for teachers, not children.
>
Why not both? Isn't our goal to engage kids? Social networking is where
they are. Of course once its there its there for both.

Second, Facebook does not provide a place for file (project) sharing,
> just a place for talking about projects. We will need other services
> for that (dare I say, Google Drive).

File sharing would be wonderful. +2

It would also be nice to be able to "embed" a running project in a web page
(when we get to the point where the projects can run in a web page :)

Stephen
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