[IAEP] Fwd: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing

[Edward Mokurai Cherlin]

[I'm sorry, this got lost in cyberspace for a week.]

I'll give the same answer here.

Actually, it was agriculture that led to the idea of government as a
protection racket and to kneecapping or worse of those who refused to pay
their taxes. Hunter-gatherer cultures are tribal, not national, and far
more cooperative. I have historical and archaeological data on this if
anybody needs it. Or you could watch The Gods Must Be Crazy and its sequel
for humorous examples.

"Run and tell everybody to come and help us eat this elephant." (Killed by
poachers, who took the tusks and left the body.)


On Tue, April 2, 2013 10:27 pm, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> It took me while to realize that I forwarded it to a wrong list...
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alan Kay <alan.nemo at yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing
> To: Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org>
> Cc: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>
>
> Ask him: how did the invention of agriculture influence "civilization"?
>
> Or: what is ultimately more powerful, competition or cooperation?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> ________________________________
> From: Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org>
> To: Alan Kay <alan.nemo at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:47 AM
> Subject: Fwd: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing
>
> Benoit is asking this.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Benoît Fleury <benoit.fleury at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [squeakland] The Dynabook and modern computing
> To: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> Cc: IAEP SugarLabs <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>, squeakland list
> <squeakland at squeakland.org>
>
>
> Thank you Bert for the link.
>
> I am not sure to understand this metaphor with agriculture.
>
> "One way to think of all of these organizations is to realize that if
> they require a charismatic leader who will shoot people in the knees
> when needed, then the corporate organization and process is a failure.
> It means no group can come up with a good decision and make it stick
> just because it is a good idea. All the companies I’ve worked for have
> this deep problem of devolving to something like the hunting and
> gathering cultures of 100,000 years ago. If businesses could find a
> way to invent “agriculture” we could put the world back together and
> all would prosper."
>
> If someone could explain me what it means.
>
> Thanks,
> Benoit.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> wrote:
>> Time interviews Alan Kay:
>>
>> http://techland.time.com/2013/04/02/an-interview-with-computing-pioneer-alan-kay/
>>
>> - Bert -
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