[IAEP] Crunch Time

[Thomas C Gilliard]

On 01/15/2012 09:44 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> OK.  I'll make a Pineaple Live CD for the Mac on my Mac.  Can I make a 
> live CD on my Mac that will run on a PC?
>
You can burn an .iso file on the Mac in DiskUtility.app that works on 
PC's and Intel Mac's
Trisquel 5-sugar will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows 
boot)- connects only with a USB D-Link DWL-122 Dongle
-sees jabber
-record 87 (Update) sees Mac Camera and takes pictures
-not all activities work

Pineapple 64 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows 
boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless, wired not seen)
Pineapple 32 bit will boot on the Mac (mac HD or what we want: windows 
boot) - no internet connection (only looking for wireless, wired not seen)

hold "option" key down until windows or EFI appears.  wait can be 10-20 sec.

Note: Latest SoaS versions do not seem to have a working EFI boot 
anymore. Fedora must have made some changes : (

 >All CD's will boot an intel PC<

All CD's were burned on my i7 MacBook Pro tonight to test for you.

Cordially

Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on #sugar
> Thanks again
>
> -C
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:41:22 -0800
> From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Crunch Time
>
>
>
> On 01/15/2012 09:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:16:48 -0800
>     From: satellit at bendbroadband.com <mailto:satellit at bendbroadband.com>
>     To: cbigenho at hotmail.com <mailto:cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>     Subject: Re: Crunch Time
>
>
>
>     On 01/15/2012 09:05 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>         Hi!
>
>         I didn't expect an answer so fast. Thanks!  Sounds
>         like Trisquel 5-sugar will be perfect for what I need.  For my
>         Mac I can use a Virtual Box (or Parallels?), but to have
>         something that I can give to everyone, I guess Trisquel 5
>         would do very nicely.
>
>         I had Parallels and Windows 7 installed on my new MacBook Pro
>         so that I can run a health program (diabetes) that is only
>         available for Windows.  I was having some boot problems and
>         thought it might be due to them. So I have temporarily
>         uninstalled them.
>
>         Is Pineapple stable enough to hand out to newbies?
>
>     Yes I recommend it (32 bit) if you want it for PC's (no mac boot)
>     though you can burn the CD from an .iso on your Mac.
>     Trisquel will also work though some pippy examples do not work on it.
>     They do in Soas-v6 Pineapple
>
>     /I'll switch to italics to  make it easy to follow. I need
>     something that will run on any intel machine so I can give the
>     same CD to anyone, regardless of their machine preference.  Does
>     such a version exist?/
>     /
>     /
>
> If you mean intel MAC's;
> Not really.
> 64 bit f16-SoaS will boot on some PC's (some intel Atom and 64 bit 
> dual core processors) and ON A SUBSET OF intel Macs but EFI Boot on a 
> MAC requires a wired Cat5 network connection . THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL 
> VERSION ATM.
>
> If that is what you want It does not exist yet.
>
> Sorry I have given you the best recommendations in the previous e-mails.
>
> Look again for reference:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB
>
> Cordially;
>
> Tom Gilliard
>
>
>     /Thanks again... Caryl
>     /
>     Regards;
>
>     Tom Gilliard
>     satellit_
>
>         Caryl
>
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:58:55 -0800
>         From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
>         <mailto:satellit at bendbroadband.com>
>         To: cbigenho at hotmail.com <mailto:cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: Crunch Time
>
>
>
>         On 01/15/2012 07:07 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>             Hi Tom,
>
>
>             It's crunch time!  I finished both slide shows I needed
>             for SCaLE 10X and am now working to find the one version
>             of SoaS that I can put on a Live CD for distribution at
>             our booth and demo in my presentation.  Someone has
>             suggested Trisquel.  But, isn't it mostly for little kids
>             (first grade)? I want one that includes Pippy and Turtle
>             Blocks (Art), if at all possible.
>
>
>         Caryl;
>
>         Trisquel 5-sugar (Toast)  has Turtle Art 120 and Pippy 43 on
>         it. (Pippy does not run the Camera and Physics examples.)
>         It also has  Etoys 116
>         Software Update (new applications) will load Turtle Machine 10
>
>         SoaS-v6-Pineapple has Etoys 116; Turtle Art 120; and Pippy 43
>         Software Update: includes upgrades to Turtle Art 131 and 
>         Pippy 44 (camera and Physics examples work)
>         RECOMMENDED
>
>             So what version will work most "universally"  on Macs
>             (Intel) and PCs on a "Live CD"
>
>         64 Bit Soas v6 Pineapple boots both ways. But the EFI Boot is
>         unable to see the wireless
>         (64 bit is not as universal as 32 bit)
>
>         I still recommend installing VirtualBox 4.1 for OSX and to
>         import this appliance from
>         http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple
>
>             *RECOMMENDED*
>
>                 firstboot has not yet run; so a new user name and
>                 password will be set for the gdm login on startup for
>                 the first time 
>
>             Built 11/13/2011 with Virtualbox 4.1.4 for OSX
>             How Built: *root=sugarroot* 4-GB VirtualBox hard disc
>             English and English keyboard USA-Los Angeles (Pacific
>             timezone)
>             *download and import 2 files:*
>
>         http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL-disk1.vmdk
>         http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/F16-i686_SoaS_CL.ovf
>
>         VitualBox works with the Mac Wireless properly
>
>
>             Will your instructions for burning a live CD in Disk
>             Utility on the wiki make a CD that will play universally?
>
>
>         Yes I tested it on my ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 and on the Mac
>         Powerbook i7
>         It boots the CD in each case. From any CD .iso you choose.
>
>             I downloaded Mirabelle in the 64 bit version.  I think
>             that is a mistake. It won't be universal.
>
>             So which one should I try.  The downloads take several
>             hours. My internet only does about 75 Mb/sec/
>
>         If I had only one: f16-Soas-v6 Pineapple (32 bit)
>         http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads
>         RECOMMENDED
>
>         Cordially;
>
>         Tom Gilliard
>         satellit_
>         Note:
>         Look at this to see which activities are compatible with
>         SoaS-v6 Pineapple
>         http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix
>
>
>
>             Thanks!
>
>             Caryl
>
>
>             P.S. If you have time, you can save me some time by
>             sending links.
>
>
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