[IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity

Steve Thomas sthomas1 at gosargon.com
Tue Dec 18 01:42:32 EST 2012

Spelling correction:
You can put the lesson on a USB stick and it will run on any Mac, PC or
Linux box, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com> wrote:

> Alan,
> So to quote your namesake "*A change in perspective is worth 80 IQ
> points."*
> So let me see if I can change your perspective on Etoys.  I just created a
> simple lesson in Etoys such as you described in about 10-15 minutes, most
> of that time was spent trying to find a good open source image of the eye
> (I used the one from WIkipedia which you may want to look at if you would
> like to take the Quiz I just developed).
> Here is the You Tube video of why Etoys rocks and how<http://youtu.be/mqbnJG1dgkA>
> I created the quiz with 5 "lines of code" an image, a holder and two text
> objects.  You can put the lesson on a USB stuck and it will run on any Mac,
> PC and Linux, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms. No
> libraries to load or special drivers needed.
> Now of course perhaps this could be done quicker or more cost effectively
> in python :D
> Cheers,
> Stephen
> Below is a more full quote from Alan on IQ:
> Q - What if you had an "IQ" of 500, but were born in 10,000 BC. You would
> not be able to make a lot of progress. For example, Leonardo was very smart
> but couldn't come up with the engines his vehicle designs needed in order
> to work -- he was born in the wrong century for what he wanted to do.
> Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as
> Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was
> able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of
> inexpensive automobiles.
> Outlook - what made Henry Ford powerful (and most other things today) was
> an enormous change in Outlook (you called it a paradigm shift) which we can
> symbolize by invoking Newton.
> "Knowledge is Silver, but Outlook is Gold" (IQ is Lead ... because most
> worthwhile problems we want to work on and solve are beyond mere IQ)
> In other words, most human cultures accumulate and use a lot of knowledge
> (this is what a culture is all about) that is used to survive, to
> accommodate to the environment and even sometimes thrive. But the knowledge
> of a traditional society is very different from that of a feudal society
> which in turn is very different from a technological scientifically based
> society.
> The bug most people have about schools (including many who set up schools)
> is the idea that they are there to teach knowledge. (Not a bad secondary
> goal, but it's a very bad idea for it to be the main goal.) Montessori was
> an early voice who pointed out that the main purpose of schooling
> (especially early schooling) was to help students learn and deeply
> internalize the most powerful outlooks that have been discovered/invented
> by humans. She observed that otherwise children wind up living in the 20th
> century but with a 10th century (or much earlier) outlook ...
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn <
> alanjas at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my
>> namesake Alan Kay :-)
>> I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be:
>> "I know the Eye" and use a
>> similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy)
>> External: (muscleds, etc)
>> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AAAAAAAAAGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg
>> And internal:
>> http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg
>> The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar
>> free license).
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500
>> From: sthomas1 at gosargon.com
>> To: andrycaa at gmail.com
>> CC: olpc-open at lists.laptop.org; alanjas at hotmail.com;
>> sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
>> Alan,
>> If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be
>> happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help
>> educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and
>> provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them.  If you send me
>> some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly.  It
>> would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run
>> on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes).  If it works for both of
>> us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a "more
>> robust case".
>> Stephen
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> > From: andrycaa at gmail.com
>> > To: olpc-open at lists.laptop.org
>> > Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
>> >
>> > Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or
>> determine
>> > if I might have some material that would benefit the community.  I work
>> for
>> > a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if
>> there
>> > was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive
>> eye
>> > model to teach children about the different parts of the eye.  It could
>> be
>> > anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit.
>> >
>> > My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was
>> some
>> > interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more
>> > deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources
>> > behind this.
>> >
>> > Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point
>> me in
>> > the right direction?
>> I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these
>> pages.
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity
>> cjl
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