[IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Mon Dec 3 16:43:31 EST 2012

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Yama Ploskonka <yamaplos at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi David, thanks
> Texas Instrument's MSP430 Launchpad. at $4.30 including shipping, it's
> probably the most affordable, bang-for-the-buck MCU/experimentation board
> combo ever. Etc., no need to go into a full blown advertisement :-)
> I have managed, with a few coughs and starts, to run it in several
> iterations of OLPC OS, using plain old XO-1 units.
> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OLPC_MSP430_Install (due for some
> code revision)
> The /sudo/ problem we are facing is specific to Uruguay, where their
> benevolent administrators have blocked several features on the XOs OS
> I don't do Windows, thank you very much. (though UY is painting itself in
> the corner on that one also, by embracing NXT)

FWIW, there is an NXT plugin for Turtle Art. No need to use Windows.

> Personally, I am more for the command line.
> My reasoning is that those, very few, able to take full benefit of working
> with microcontrollers are also the ones who can grock command line no
> problem, sort of a correlation between their personal attributes and
> potentials. More importantly, text based coding is Real World, and
> definitely not for everybody.
> I see that working for/with them is important, as it is those few the ones
> who might have the biggest individual impact in nation building, while their
> special and greater needs dismissed and potential for brilliance often lost
> in the name of Procrustean egalitarianism (standard Yamarant).
> Still, I am enormously impressed by things like this color follower, that
> uses the XO camera and processes data in Tortugarte, then directs the
> motors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nnc9Rn9GbY
> I see there is room for tile-based stuff, though for now there are deeper
> issues I have not yet solved...
> Thank you!
> On 12/03/2012 02:35 PM, David Corking wrote:
>> Yama: Which model of microcontroller will you use? Which
>> programmer/connector will you use?
>> Yes, I think your mspdebug experience might be a 'user' and 'group'
>> thing on the USB device, but it might be a kernel driver, which
>> normally needs root access.
>> If you use Windows on your netbooks one nice way to install the GNU
>> toolchain to compile C programs is Red Hat's cygwin project:
>> http://cygwin.com/
>> David
>> p.s. Have you seen Physical Etoys? It is free tile scripting for
>> microcontrollers, though I don't think an XO bundle has been made. Low
>> ceiling, but interesting.
>> http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/projects/physical-etoys/
>> Also Squeakbot and PhidgetLab
>> http://www.planete-sciences.org/robot/boiteabots/
>> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/phidgetlab/index.html
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