[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Article on "Why files need to die"

Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 05:54:40 EDT 2011

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Christoph Derndorfer <
christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza at openoffice.org>wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Christoph Derndorfer <
>> christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just saw this article over on O'Reilly Radar and a lot of what the
>>> author says also applies to the Journal: "Why files need to die: Files are
>>> an anachronism in the digital age. It's time for something better." (
>>> http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/07/why-files-need-to-die.html).
>>> So while it's still early days I definitely feel that the Journal is
>>> generally moving into the right direction, especially with all the new
>>> features and whatnot discussed during the eduJAM! summit:-)
>> I am not purely convinced on eliminating the files paradigm, maybe the
>> folders would be a different conversation. But files are well... pretty
>> obiquos. Since you seem very interesting in having this paradigm of a
>> journal. I wonder if you got inspired out of Zeitgeist project in gnome (I
>> think they rename it now to something more normal like gnome-journal or
>> something).
> Not sure that there's necessarily a direct connection between Sugar's
> Journal and Gnome's Zeitgeist but if there were then I'd probably argue that
> it went from Sugar to Gnome rather than the other way 'round;-)
>> I would like to hear your validation of the journal and why is it a good
>> idea, and how deep will this change goes beyond the UI and apps to a
>> commandline environment.
> See the aforementioned article, it really contains most of the reasons why
> I personally think that something like the Journal is a good idea. It seems
> to be that a stream-like interface combined with a database based backend is
> a good combination for today's computing context.
> On an even a broader scale back in Uruguay in early May Bert Freudenberg
> pointed out that mobile operating systems such as Android and iOS and now
> increasingly even desktop operating systems (e.g. OS X Lion) are moving into
> a direction where you're not really interacting with files anymore.

Please also see this article (
http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/06/08/new-pony/) which Tomeu Vizoso (one
of the early Sugar developers) just shared on Google+, well worth a read!


Christoph Derndorfer
co-editor, olpcnews
url: www.olpcnews.com
e-mail: christoph at olpcnews.com
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