[IAEP] [SLOBS]: Request for certifications of developing an activity
nicestep at gmail.com
Wed Jul 13 14:23:17 EDT 2011
I remember being a student like it was yesterday. The thing is, you have
classes like this one that Mel Chua pointed out awhile back:
I looked at some of their blogs and some of them were struggling with pretty
basic stuff like how to put in a toolbar, etc. They were using my book as a
reference and still didn't quite get it. If I had been able to help them
(not do the work, but point them in the right direction) I would have. The
kind of stuff we'd like for them to do is the same kind of thing future
employers are going to want, for the same reasons. I really think we have
something to offer them. Once they are part of the community they may find
that they like it.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo at laptop.org>
> > Yes.
> > Also, we must recommend working more in the open, I don't know why, but
> > particular students in universities
> > are very reluctant to integrate to the community, and are happy dropping
> > "finished" product without interaction.
> > Gonzalo
> A lot of it has to do with motivation. Students typically pick up a
> project because they have a requirement, and may be passionate about
> the work at that moment, but needs of looking for a job, working on
> other course assignments etc. will quickly supersede their original
> project direction. The reluctance of integrating with the community
> stems from the requirements of the project (schedule/deliverables are
> course driven) and a usual lack of understanding of how FOSS projects
> work. Once the university requirement is satisfied, their motivation
> to continue typically goes away. However, if we are able to inculcate
> in these students, a desire for working on these projects while they
> are in the course, and integrate them into the community, then there
> is hope of continued work.
> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor, Information Systems
> Director, Campus Business Solutions
> San Francisco State University
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:37 AM, James Simmons <nicestep at gmail.com>
> >> I like the idea of giving certificates, but I think we should take the
> >> opportunity to enforce some simple best practices, like requiring a
> >> requiring Share and Keep buttons to be hidden if they aren't used,
> >> a proper icon for the Activity, etc.
> >> It might be nice to have two levels of certificate. Since shared
> >> Activities are more difficult to develop, maybe we have a separate
> >> certificate for those.
> >> James Simmons
> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Martin Dengler <
> martin at martindengler.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jul 12 2011, Walter Bender wrote:
> >>> > > Can we discuss this? I think it would be good to have a certificate
> >>> > > program of some sort. I image that if we get sign-off by 2+
> >>> > > experienced developers, we should be willing to award some sort of
> >>> > > certificate (perhaps we can get the design team to work something
> >>> > > up.)
> >>> >
> >>> > Perhaps we could tie the certificate-awarding to posting an activity
> >>> > ASLO and getting a review from someone on the Activity Team or
> >>> > something?
> >>> Perhaps even prominent reviewers on ASLO (are there any?). Either way
> >>> it's more sustainable and honest than herding developers to sign off
> >>> on certificates.
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> > - Chris.
> >>> Martin
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