[IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

Jameson Quinn jameson.quinn at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 17:22:34 EST 2011

What does Sugar have? A vision, a community, and a codebase. But right now,
we're tied to some technologies which, while they work, seem to be
restricting the growth of our community.

I think it's clear that HTML5 is the future. Since Sugar is python-based,[1]
that means learning from the community which knows about using python on
HTML5 - which is the pyjamas community. While pyjamas today is generally
distributed as python-compiled-into-javascript, it is developed as native
python talking to the DOM. That latter setup is called pyjamas desktop, and
it works today, and the pyjamas people have a plan to make it work fully as
smoothly as javascript does.

So, in, say, 2 years, an "installed sugar" user could be running activities
on python with a browser layout engine doing the UI; while a "trial
activity" could be a somewhat-slow-to-download blob of javascript compiled
from python.


[1] Yes, we could consider ditching python. But I continue to believe that
python is a much better learning language than either Java or Javascript
(for different reasons, but clearly so in both cases). And anyway, if we can
keep python, we can keep a lot of code instead of throwing it away.

2011/2/17 Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com>

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Nicholas Doiron <ndoiron at andrew.cmu.edu>wrote:
>> This is a tremendously interesting but increasingly technical discussion.
>> It's difficult to weigh pros and cons of an entire OS in an e-mail
>> discussion. Would it be possible for people to create pages on the wiki so
>> we can get a clearer outline of:
>> * What is each OS?  Explain to a teacher using SoaS what ChromeOS and
>> Android actually are. Avoiding conflation with Chrome browser and Droid
>> phone.
>> * What education apps exist already?  Are there grants or challenge prizes
>> for app developers?
>> * Do you believe Sugar activities can make the transition?  Will Native
>> Development Kit (Android) and Native Client (ChromeOS) help?
>> Thanks,
>> Nick Doiron
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system
>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system>is a background primer on
> operating systems.
> Why not outline some more of your inquiries from a teacher interested in
> Sugar or Sugar-on-<xyz> perspective?
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Questions
> And the community can begin to fill in the answers.
>       --Fred
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