[IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?

[Edward Cherlin]

OK, I'll send it to you separately. Anybody else is still welcome to join in.

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 20:47, Steve Thomas <stevesargon at gmail.com> wrote:
> Edward,
> Thanks, please send me the outline and what you think needs to be more
> "easily discoverable" and I will work on it.
> Stephen
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know
>> where to start. It is also true that the start screen of EToys could
>> be improved by providing a path to each of them, and to other
>> education modules, and Etoys could be improved with a few more
>> introductory modules.
>>
>> Since children and untrained teachers cannot be expected to discover
>> these paths, and paths in other Activities, on their own, I am in the
>> middle of writing a guide to Discovery on the XO. The starting point
>> is my Wiki page,
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>> The undiscoverable  is an unofficial FAQ for tips, tricks, and
>> solutions to common problems that may otherwise be tricky to find.
>> These are being considered for inclusion in the official SoaS
>> documentation.
>>
>> The Etoys section needs vast expansion. I have an outline in mind,
>> which I can share with anybody who would like to work on it.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:59, Tim McNamara <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>> > The analogy doesn't quite fit, as it's possible to do complex things in
>> > all
>> > of those tools and it's easy to do simple things in EToys. Each Activity
>> > can
>> > be used in this learning model, e.g. training wheels to motorbike.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > On 25 September 2010 05:48, Cherry Withers <cwithers at ekindling.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> And Scratch? ... don't remember where I read it,  but it sounded
>> >> logical
>> >> to me.
>> >> Use progressively difficult tools for progressively difficult tasks.
>> >> To confirm this statement,  I add the phrase: "Visible learning,
>> >> invisible
>> >> technology".
>> >> Children would first learn TurtleArt.
>> >> When they outgrow it switch to Scratch.
>> >> When all its possibilities are exhausted, continue with eToys.
>> >
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Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
http://www.earthtreasury.org/