[IAEP] [Marketing] [SoaS] [MARKETING] Get Sugar landing page

[Walter Bender]

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:28 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
<pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:06 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
>>>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
>>>>>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Walter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've been doing some work on the Get Sugar landing page in the wiki,
>>>>>>>> which has been the source of some confusion amongst our potential user
>>>>>>>> community. My proposed modifications (See
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/Get_Sugar) are an attempt to
>>>>>>>> streamline and consolidate the instructions for first-time users.
>>>>>>>> Feedback and testing requested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some feedback....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the Mac side of things I think we would be better dealing with it
>>>>>>> from a direct boot option and then having a separate virtualisation
>>>>>>> option as in terms of GUI say VirtualBox is the same across all
>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we have a robust direct boot option? I thought that was still
>>>>>> causing more headaches than it was worth (from the support
>>>>>> perspective).
>>>>>
>>>>> 64 bit yes, and the other graphics issues will be fixed by Fedora 14
>>>>> beta (if they're not already).
>>>>
>>>> Where are the instructions for the 64-bit version? The only
>>>> instructions I can find
>>>> (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Mac) refer to a helper
>>>> CD.
>>>
>>> Not sure about the wiki but they're here:
>>>
>>> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads
>>>
>>> There are two problems with the Mac platform:
>>> 1) Linux doesn't support 32 bit platforms from 64 bit EFI systems.
>>> This is a kernel issue and is the case on all platforms. Someone I
>>> know at one of the major server companies was going to have a look at
>>> this for me as all their new servers will be 64 bit and are EFI based
>>> and while they will only support 64 bit on them they have customers
>>> that will want to run 32 bit. I've followed up but not heard anything
>>> back.
>>>
>>> 2) Graphics support due to some random way the Mac platform deals with
>>> its GPU initialisation. This will be fixed for F-14 (and so SoaSv4).
>>> The patches might also fix #1 but I don't have Macs to test.
>>>
>>> # 2 should be in the F-14 beta so testers would be welcome on 64 bit
>>> and it would be interesting to see if it also fixes #1 as well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>
>> Is there a recommended way to create the Live USB on a Mac? Or is it
>> still recommended to create the stick on a GNU/Linux or Windows box?
>
> TBH I have no idea as I don't have access to one to be able to test.
> Its certainly a platform that could do with more developer testing but
> as my nearest Mac that I can test on is a 4 hour round trip its only
> something I do every now and again when I'm at my mates place and I
> normally do that using a pre created key.
>
> I know that liveusb creator was created with the a background idea of
> supporting Mac platforms in the future. Its written in QT and with the
> underlying Mac platform supporting all the Linux style commands out of
> the box it wouldn't be hard to add Mac support if someone has a
> project they wish to do or support. Its been discussed but
> unfortunately people have been busy so its dropped down their priority
> list.
>
> Peter
>

OK. I'll recommend that people use a different platform for creating
their sticks.

thanks for all the feedback.

-walter

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Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
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