[IAEP] community team

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 01:58,  <forster at ozonline.com.au> wrote:
> Yes, please, all meetings listed in UTC.
>
> There are now proposals for Deployment and Community meetings. What are the scope of the two meetings? Is there overlap? Are both going ahead?

There shouldn't be much overlap, I think. We still need to formally
agree the mission of the community team, but I would sum it up
provisionally as "Making Sugar Labs a great place to come and work
together on Sugar".

The deployment team is more a meeting place for those people deploying
Sugar so developers and other SLs contributors don't need to go asking
individually about their opinions on things.

> Attending meetings is a big commitment from Australia/NZ, they are typically 4am local time, we understand that mid Atlantic timing suits most people. Just want to know whats worth setting an alarm clock for.

I think we should see meetings as a nicety (specially important for
bootstrapping and coordinating efforts) but not a prerequisite for
entering into any discussions. Minutes and logs should be available
after each meeting and I think it should be normal to see threads in
the mailing lists quoting what was discussed during the meeting.

Regards,

Tomeu

> Tony
>
>
>> Please include the timezone when you decide a time so I can work out what
>> time that translates to in NZ please.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tabitha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2010 08:42, Anurag Goel <agoel23 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In light of the olpc realness summit running until June 2nd, June 3rd seems
>> > appropriate and the best date for me. I'll be attending my sister's
>> > graduation on the 4th then flying to India on the 5th. Does June 3rd work
>> > for those interested in attending?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Anurag
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Anurag Goel <agoel23 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Shall we start throwing out dates for the first meeting? How about June
>> >> 1st or 2nd?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Tabitha Roder <tabitha at tabitha.net.nz>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I am watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to
>> >>> develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have
>> >>> experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of
>> >>> success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe in
>> >>> what olpc and sugar have been striving for.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for the
>> >>> volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me. It takes
>> >>> a whole community and each of the players contributes in a different way. I
>> >>> have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a role that requires
>> >>> a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer, educator, funding guru,
>> >>> importing guru, etc) and disappointed with myself for not learning all these
>> >>> skills (obviously you can't learn everything).
>> >>>
>> >>> As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have tried to
>> >>> nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have more knowledge,
>> >>> we have shared challenges, learned the importance of regular interaction (we
>> >>> would have failed if it were not for the regularity of same place, same
>> >>> time, every week). We have had to define what we do and how will we do it,
>> >>> as well as build confidence in talking to others about what we do and why.
>> >>> This identity helps us. We have all had to work hard in our roles as
>> >>> volunteers, whether that be in recruiting others or in sacrificing time to
>> >>> investigate bugs or in other ways, or in financially supporting events to
>> >>> get olpc and sugar news out to others in New Zealand.
>> >>>
>> >>> As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries and
>> >>> minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for the good
>> >>> of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and step back
>> >>> and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by some of those
>> >>> things. I have encouraged a culture of support and nurturing with the
>> >>> community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done better.
>> >>>
>> >>> My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of the
>> >>> nature of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity in
>> >>> communication.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tabitha
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribi�:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the
>> >>>> team
>> >>>> >> template, such as this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could
>> >>>> > simply be this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The header already reads "Community Home", and the content of the
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> > subpages is already more or less appropriate.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tomeu
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
>> >>>> >  \X/  Sugar Labs       - http://sugarlabs.org/
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> >>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Anurag Goel
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Anurag Goel
>> >
>> Please include the timezone when you decide a time so I can work out what time that translates to in NZ please.<br><br>Thanks<br>Tabitha<br><br><br clear="all"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 May 2010 08:42, Anurag Goel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agoel23 at gmail.com">agoel23 at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">In light of the olpc realness summit running until June 2nd, June 3rd seems appropriate and the best date for me. I'll be attending my sister's graduation on the 4th then flying to India on the 5th. Does June 3rd work for those interested in attending?�<div>
>>
>> <br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Anurag�<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Anurag Goel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agoel23 at gmail.com" target="_blank">agoel23 at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
>> Shall we start throwing out dates for the first meeting? How about June 1st or 2nd?�<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Tabitha Roder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tabitha at tabitha.net.nz" target="_blank">tabitha at tabitha.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
>>
>>
>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>I am watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to
>> develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have
>> experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of
>> success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe
>> in what olpc and sugar have been striving for.� <br>
>> <br>Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for
>> the volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me.
>> It takes a whole community and each of the players contributes in a
>> different way. I have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a
>>  role that requires a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer,
>> educator, funding guru, importing guru, etc) and disappointed with
>> myself for not learning all these skills (obviously you can't learn
>> everything). <br>
>> <br>As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have
>> tried to nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have
>> more knowledge, we have shared challenges, learned the importance of
>> regular interaction (we would have failed if it were not for the
>> regularity of same place, same time, every week). We have had to define
>> what we do and how will we do it, as well as build confidence in talking
>>  to others about what we do and why. This identity helps us. We have all
>>  had to work hard in our roles as volunteers, whether that be in
>> recruiting others or in sacrificing time to investigate bugs or in other
>>  ways, or in financially supporting events to get olpc and sugar news
>> out to others in New Zealand.� <br>
>> <br>As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries
>> and minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for
>> the good of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and
>>  step back and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by
>>  some of those things. I have encouraged a culture of support and
>> nurturing with the community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done
>>  better.<br>
>> <br>My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of
>> the nature of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity
>> in communication. <br clear="all"><br>Tabitha <br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net" target="_blank">tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
>>
>>
>>
>> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div><div>On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie at codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie at codewiz.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribi�:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the team<br>
>> >> template, such as this: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could<br>
>> > simply be this: <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > The header already reads "Community Home", and the content of the other<br>
>> > subpages is already more or less appropriate.<br>
>> <br>
>> </div>Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting!<br>
>> <br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> <br>
>> Tomeu<br>
>> <br>
>> > --<br>
>> </div></div><div><div></div><div><div><div></div><div>> � // Bernie Innocenti - <a href="http://codewiz.org/" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org/</a><br>
>> > �\X/ �Sugar Labs � � � - <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br></div></div><div>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)<br>
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>> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
>> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br><font color="#888888">Anurag Goel<br>
>> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br>Anurag Goel<br>
>> </div>
>> </blockquote></div><br>
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