[IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists

[David Farning]

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The problem with this approach is that it renders SoaS ineffective for
>>> new tryers of Sugar (i.e. the overwhelming majority of teachers and
>>> parents we are trying to reach).
>>
>> I don't think it will be any less ineffective than having 20
>> activities of which half have issues, crash or just don't run.
>
> Are people saying _only 6 activities work reliably?_
>
> My question of "which is it?" was assuming there are more than 6 that
> run well, demo well, maintained, etc. So it meant "which plan is it, 6
> activities that allow downloading and installing of more, or the good
> ones?"
>
> If there are only 6 good ones...  would focus on making that list longer.
>
> Did APIs break with Sugar churn, Fedora churn? Developers upload
> without testing? (Rethorical! Flamefest warning! Those questions are
> bound to be a flamefest blaming people who don't deserve to be
> blamed... :-( )

A big issue that we are have on the .deb side is the the distros are pushing ahead with new, faster, stronger.... While sugar has stabilized on a base.  The biggest issue for us is with xulrunner and browse.  Since mozilla has dropped support for xulrunner and xpcom in favor of web kit.  Ubuntu is not willing to carry it forward in the upcoming LTS release.

I don't know if one can properly assign blame.  It is more the nature of evolutionary software development.  Upstreams move forward while downstreams are more hesitant because they have significant investments and support cost to consider.

david

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