[IAEP] FW: [support-gang] Voting Continues: Gnome vs Sugar -- The judgement day

[Caryl Bigenho]

I agree with Sameer and Marife.  From an educator's point of view, having both Sugar and Gnome available has a lot of advantages.  Sugar offers a kid-friendly environment, while at the same time offering some great Activities for older children.  The younger ones probably won't find much of interest in Gnome to draw them away from Sugar, but for the older ones, having the option of switching back and forth without too much difficulty will encourage them to come back to Sugar for favorite Activities even when they have "graduated" to a grown-up's desktop like Gnome.  This could also dampen the drive for getting "Windows" machines for older students.  Who needs Windows when you can have Gnome?


Caryl
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:56:22 -0400
From: marife.mago at gmail.com
To: support-gang at lists.laptop.org
Subject: Re: [support-gang] Voting Continues: Gnome vs Sugar -- The	judgement day

When I first play around with the XO 1.5 I was pleased with the switch desktop feature, I even shared it with my eKindling team and the same way they have a positive reaction with having sugar and gnome.  I don't think that having this feature will take us away from our educational objective.  It will solely depend on how this is implemented during the deployment. I see this feature as a great way to leverage the XO. For example the primary level kids will not care much about this switch as they have so many activities to explore in Sugar and they'll depend much on what is being presented to them, as well as the teachers who doesn't have much exposure with computers.  As for the higher level class say grades 4-6 there's nothing wrong for them to explore GNOME as you are preparing them to have diversity in learning technology and it will be good for them to be expose with the most commonly used desktop environment.


@marife




On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:51 AM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com> wrote:


Wasn't there some mention of a build/hardware release for older children on the lists recently (I remember the color - blue/white plastic)?

If he gnome desktop was only available as a download/reflash option, students who have gnome would already have demonstrated that they know a fix that doesn't require outside/adult support. In the same vein, teachers who wanted gnome, would have to obtain a usb, gain internet access, learn to reflash.




George

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Abhishek Indoria <indoria_abhishek at hotmail.com> wrote:








Hey,

Like some of the members, I feel that it's nothing wrong with having both Sugar and Gnome in builds. True, that we can try to remove the command from Control Panel, and it is true, Adam, they will figure it out. But, the catch is:they won't figure it out soon. They will take a long time for these. Only people with brilliant minds and hopefully those who are adults, can figure it out sooner (Can't define sooner, though).




What I think, is that we can try to figure out a method, while having both the desktops in XO's, by which only people with authorized access (probably teachers) can reach to the Gnome desktop while children use Sugar. I think, (for developers) while testing new activities for XO (in many cases, software derived from Windows desktop and Linux), it would feel better having to test it first on Gnome desktop in XO for benchmarking, see how it performs, add some performance tweaks and release it to Sugar. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I do not know a great deal about the topic.




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