[IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOBs] F11+0.88+XO1.* as a SL project

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi...
I love Sean's idea of listing and linking to resources from deployments around the world. With Google Translate these are accessible to everyone regardless of their language. 
I would also like to see some of the Activities that are "living" back on the old OLPC wiki under "Activities All" listed on the Sugar Labs wiki as well.  I had given up on finding the Star Chart Activity after searching every way I could think of on the Sugar Labs Activities list. Finally I stumbled on it and several other useful science related Activities back on the OLPC wiki.  I was looking for them for the Big Sky Science Partnership for Montana Reservation Schools (Montana State U and the Crow and Northern Cheyenne). They are doing a small Contributors Program project.
Sharing resources is nice!
Caryl

> From: sdaly.be at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:15:37 -0400
> To: bernie at sugarlabs.org
> CC: mel at melchua.com; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; slobs at lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOBs] F11+0.88+XO1.* as a SL project
> 
> The OLPCNews commenter in question is anti-Sugar and believes all of
> our resources should be supporting OLPC and its deployments (and none
> elsewhere).
> 
> I haven't seen any evidence that there is a perception problem that we
> are biased towards certain vendors. If anything, the perception is
> that we are "the software on the $100 laptop". We may have issues the
> day we are referenced on the CMPC, Dell or HP edu netbooks, but that
> hasn't happened yet.
> 
> For my part I think listing projects is a fine idea, it shows our tent
> is big and welcoming. We just need to very clear that we don't provide
> "tech support" for these projects.
> 
> Sugar on a Stick has been an important part of our outreach since it
> lowers the unfamiliarity and installation barriers. However, we have
> often referred to other projects in our communications, among them
> Paraguay Educa, Plan Ceibal, and the Palestine Education Initiative.
> Some of these projects have marketing/PR people who are always pleased
> to work with us.
> 
> While we're at it, we could list Sugar deployments, too, since they
> often have Sugar information and documentation of interest, e.g.
> http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=107&Itemid=268
> , an XO manual with many pages presenting Sugar.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> > El Fri, 25-06-2010 a las 13:23 -0400, Mel Chua escribió:
> >
> >> 2. cjb and tomeu and mchua are wondering whether that infrastructure
> >> access (which you *don't* need SL project status for!) was what the
> >> project was asking for, or if there was anything more to the request to
> >> become an "official project" - what resources, specifically, would they
> >> want from SL that they think becoming a "SL project" will grant them?
> >> Bernie, can you respond?
> >
> > In addition to the hosting and bandwidth, I would like to ask for
> > permission to add a link to F11-0.88 to the wiki sidebar, below SoaS.
> >
> > Cjb said that it was not an issue for OLPC, but Tomeu was still
> > concerned that other downstream projects could be negatively affected by
> > our endorsement of an XO distribution. What makes us look really biased
> > is having just SoaS in our Projects side-bar.
> >
> > In fact, I exchanged a few emails with a F11-0.88 tester who refused to
> > file activity bugs on bugs.sugarlabs.org because "I'm not interested in
> > how Sugar runs on desktop machines (nor on Ubuntu, etc.)" :-(
> >
> > This comment of an OLPCNews reader is even more eloquent:
> >
> >  http://www.olpcnews.com/software/operating_system/the_best_xo_laptop_operating_s.html#comment-296246
> >
> >
> > We seem to have a problem of perception of SL being biased towards
> > specific vendors. To fix that, we could either choose to stop working
> > with anyone, or we could offer the same service level to any downstream
> > project asking for Sugar Labs hosting. Currently, our infrastructure is
> > also hosting these partners:
> >
> >  * OLE - http://www.ole.org
> >  * OLE Nepal - http://olenepal.org/
> >  * Paraguay Educa (some services)
> >  * Karma - http://karma.sugarlabs.org
> >  * Somos Azucar - http://somosazucar.org
> >  * GCompris (only the git repository)
> >  * ZeroInstall (only a package repository)
> >
> > I would personally *love* to give more visibility to all of these
> > through links in our wiki. Only Karma and GCompris would really qualify
> > as hosted Projects. The others are partnering organizations. OLE Nepal
> > should really be a Local Lab.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, we could even extend the same invitation to
> > other Sugar related projects that are being hosted at disparate, obscure
> > locations: eXe, Trisquel Sugar, Ubuntu Sugar Remix...
> >
> > Mel asked an interesting question: what exactly is a Project? Some time
> > ago, David Farning studied the issue and posted a criteria for endorsing
> > sub-projects modeled after the Eclipse and Apache models, two very large
> > and very successful umbrella projects.
> >
> > In two years of Infrastructure Team coordination, I don't remember ever
> > refusing any hosting, syndication or account request. Why? Because I
> > believe that "Stop Energy" fundamentally hurts organizations like ours.
> > We've been quite successful at hosting activities because there's almost
> > zero stop energy in the way of contributors. The same could happen in
> > other areas as well.
> >
> > Unlike a business, we don't need to focus their resources just on
> > revenue-making activities. Our fuel actually comes from contributors,
> > there's rarely anything to gain by telling them to go away.
> >
> > --
> >   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
> >  \X/  Sugar Labs       - http://sugarlabs.org/
> >
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