[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Mockup for collab.sugarlabs.org

[Aleksey Lim]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:28:52PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> > All mentioned above could be(already) done in existed env. But the major
> > idea of collab.sl.o proposal is bringing life to existed scheme by
> > stimulating users to share their needs(due to having convenient
> > "ASLO for needs" site).
> 
> Hi Aleksey,
> 
> We definitely need to improve our lines of communication with users
> (deployments, teachers, students and casual).  As a programmer I
> appreciate a good technical solution to this problem.
> 
> I think it's more a personal problem than a tech problem though.  E.g.
> we need better relationships between developers and users, more than
> we need a better form to fill in.  And that's really a job for the
> project leadership, mostly by introducing people and encouraging them
> to follow up.  Tomeu's recent visit to Laboratorio Tecnológico del
> Uruguay is a great example; if only we could put every Sugar developer
> at a deployment for a week.  I joined the sur list and use Google
> Translate to feel at least a little bit plugged in :)   Still, I
> occasionally send emails to deployments asking things like "Are you
> guys using Typing Turtle?" and "What kinds of activities could you
> use?" but rarely hear back.  I guess it's a problem when most of the
> developers speak one language, and most of the users speak one of many
> others.

Agree, I just think we can work in both directions, personal
contacts(not all developers could follow this way, especially casual
participants) and create convenient tool to treat users needs.

> > I'm personally for lightweight collab.sl.o(to meet only mentioned above
> > issues) and reusing existed development related resources like
> > wiki/launchpad/mls for development process.
> 
> What do you think about making this idea into an activity, instead of
> a website?  We could take my "Report a Problem" control panel and turn
> it into a "Feedback" activity.  I already have the "log collector"
> server set up on SL infrastructure - we could turn the feedback into a
> RSS feed for developers who could detect trends.  I'm not sure about
> the voting stuff - we hardly get any reviews on ASLO as it is, my
> Typing Turtle score is down to 3 stars because of one middle school
> kid :)

Good catch! I've added it to
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Collab_mockup#Possible_implementations

Of course it has disadvantage as well in case of running sugar and this
activity. It won't play good in case of casual contributor e.g. casual
designer who wants to contribute to some education project and has a
spare time to compose some peace of art.

But maybe this activity is worth trying, we at least can probe some
ideas.

> (BTW, there seems to not be much user representation in the discussion
> about 0.88 features, which may provide some motivation for this topic)
> 
> -Wade
> 

-- 
Aleksey