[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

[Aleksey Lim]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:03:29PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, David Farning <dfarning at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The other day during an infrastructure meeting, Walter brought up some
> > > thought on how to enable kids to exchange Turtle Art projects....
> > >
> > > Alsroot has been thinking about how to do this through a.sl.o since he
> > > became the activities.sugarlabs.org code maintainer.
> > >
> > > The high level view is that someone can easily upload Turtle Art
> > creations
> > > to somewhere and then they, or others, can go to a portal to download
> > other
> > > Turtle Art creations.
> > >
> > > Client side, this would require:
> > > 1. Adding a widget to either the journal or the TA activity to upload the
> > TA
> > > Bundle.
> > > 2. Adding a TA bundle installer to handler TA Bundle downloads.
> > >
> > > Server side, this would require:
> > > 1. A place to accept TA bundle uploads.
> > > 2. A search-able place from which to download TA bundles
> > >
> > > We have some similar systems we can look to as examples.
> > > 1. Scratch -- Scratch has an upload button and users can download scratch
> > > projects from --  http://scratch.mit.edu/galleries/browse/newest
> > > 2. ASLO --  Users upload XO bundles via a web interface and download via
> > a
> > > web interface.
> > >
> > > My initial instinct is to see if ASLO can be adopted to fit this need.
> > > Primarily because we have it, it works, and it is scalable.  On the other
> > > hand, if the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks
> > like a
> > > nail. (How is that for over using clichés and buzzword?)
> > >
> > > Considerations:
> > > ASLO rocks:)
> > > ASLO can be adapted to handle various file types.  For example:
> > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
> > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:2
> > >
> > > Each file type can have a separate look and feel.
> > >
> > > Is the activity creation and upload process too complicated for young
> > users?
> > >
> > > Moving forward:
> > > Would it be possible to journal or TA widget which:
> > > 1.  Walks the student though a upload wizard.
> > > 2.  Combines the TA project into a into a bundle with the metadata
> > generated
> > > in the wizard.
> > > 3.  Sends the bundle to activites.sl.o/uploads
> >
> > I am not sure what you are asking? How is this different that just
> > using Browse to upload files from the Journal?
> >
> 
> IIRC, Uploading via the browser requires the uploader fill in several fields
> on the server and provide a link to the file they want to upload.  This
> results in a server driven workflow (pull).  I am thinking of a client
> driven (push) use case where the client sends a bundle with the required
> meta data to a URL.  From there, ALSO processes the bundle+metadate with out
> further user intervention.  This requires a bit of client side prethinking:
> 1. Is the upload a registered ASLO user? If not, ask them to register.
> 2. Does the activity already exist and this is a new version? Ask one set of
> question.
> 3. Is this a new activity? Ask a more involved set of questions.
> 
> My questions are:
> 1.Is this requiring 'too much' of a young user who just wants to upload a
> project?
> 2. Are we trying to pound in a screw with a hammer?

it could be done a bit different, e.g. there are local objects
(in Journal) and there remote objects in Library activity, user type search
string, chose object type/time i.e. does the same like in Journal but only with
remote objects. To share local objects, user just goes to
only-local-objects mode in Library and just star all object that should
be shared(we already have all info we need to share, title, type, tags).

> 
> David
> 
> I realize that I am obsessed with ASLO and tend to stretch it beyond its
> usefulness
> 
> -walter
> >
> > > Would it be possible to setup/adapt ASLO to:
> > > 1. Handle TA files types.
> > > 2. Accepts TA bundles+metadata uploads and inserts them into the review
> > > queue.
> > >
> > > david
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > Walter Bender
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Aleksey