[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Wed Sep 23 08:46:04 EDT 2009

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 14:36, Mel Chua <metamel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sebastien's original question[2] is unanswered perhaps because it's
>>> been deemed maybe-already-answered[3] or "peripheral"
>> To the contrary, it seems to me that it remains unanswered only
>> because it has been deemed a very important question, one worth formal
>> consideration by a decision panel and the oversight board.
> Decision-making at SL is by consensus whenever possible
> (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance#Decision_Panels).
> One indication of how well our community successfully empowers people
> to do the things they think will best help Sugar is how *rarely* we
> need Authority From Above to swoop down and tell us How Things Shall
> Be. Every time we clarify our thoughts and come to a conclusion
> together, we make a decision, *and* we improve our ability to make
> decisions in the future. The way we learn how to more rapidly and
> clearly make decisions by consensus is by practicing
> decision-making-by-consensus. It's a tough thing to learn, as is the
> art of being a do-ocracy (with coding as one of many ways of Doing
> Something).
> That's how I see it, anyway.
> Anyway, in the interests of Doing Stuff, I filed a mailing list
> creation ticket (ownership set to bernie since he's the Infrastructure
> lead) http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1419 to take care of 4.1, and to
> give us a place to do the rest.

Thanks a lot for keep pushing things forward.

> The next thing I'll do (this evening) is to find the "What is a SL
> Project?" thread, do a similar summary of where we stand / blockers,
> and try to nudge 4.2 and 4.4 onwards (though it looks like Sebastian's
> pretty much got things from here); it sounds like Marketing (led by
> Sean, who's made his thoughts clear in this thread) should be driving
> consensus on 4.3, or possibly counseling the Decision Panel on it if
> the SLOBs announce/appoint a decision panel with a chair and a
> deadline for making a specific choice.

My personal view on this is that this is a matter that affects mostly
the marketing team _and_ the SoaS team. The former because they do the
marketing of a product with that name, and the later because it's a
community effort that has been using that name.

I'm not talking about who has the right to define what SoaS means, but
about which groups inside SLs need a decision on this to keep doing
their work.



> These are all suggestions that I happen to think make sense and plan
> on moving forward on in the hopes that others will join me or
> course-correct me. Pushback/patches welcome. ;-)
> --Mel
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