[IAEP] Help activity was Re: deployment team meeting?

[Yamandu Ploskonka]

after this experience with the Floss Manual thing, I am more and more 
convinced we need to focus as much as possible on the Help Activity as a 
major priority for helping our tools to become more successful.  Both in 
getting better access to it for users (bigger button, better placement, 
at startup for the first few uses of Sugar - those are other things to 
sort out), and so much more to really deal with usability, so let us 
figure out, please, some strategy for addressing this matter. 
what do you think?

yama

Caroline Meeks wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am very interested in the help activity but falling behind. Is there 
> a wiki page or better yet a LaunchPad Blueprint where we can 
> collaborate and I can catch up on the current status?
>
> I wrote one after the Paris Camp but Its not clear that its been 
> updated to reflect this conversation.
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help
>
> Thanks!
> Caroline
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
> <dirakx at gmail.com <mailto:dirakx at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Tomeu.
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<tomeu at sugarlabs.org
>     <mailto:tomeu at sugarlabs.org>> wrote:
>     > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz
>     > Guerrero<dirakx at gmail.com <mailto:dirakx at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> i agree with yama.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Would be ok to put help icon
>     >> directly on the main frame ?
>     >
>     > You mean the frame or the favorites view?
>
>     I meant the frame.
>
>     For older users with better
>     > trackpads and bigger screens, they may need help to find the
>     frame ;)
>
>     right. favorites view will be better then,
>
>
>     >> and also transform it to connect directly with for example
>     tools like
>     >> launchpad, track and idea.sugarlabs.org
>     <http://idea.sugarlabs.org> ?.
>     >
>     > Any ideas about what the UI would look like?
>
>     Not much, i'm not a good ui designer.=).
>
>
>
>
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Tomeu
>     >
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Rafael Ortiz
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Yamandu
>     Ploskonka<yamaplos at gmail.com <mailto:yamaplos at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>> what about seeding Sugar with a more appealing access to Help,
>     also in
>     >>> such a way that it also encourages feedback?
>     >>>
>     >>> (I already had pointed that the access to help has to be more
>     visible to
>     >>> be useful, and then part of its functioning would be to
>     encourage actual
>     >>> users to speak)
>     >>>
>     >>> Yama
>     >>>
>     >>> Walter Bender wrote:
>     >>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tomeu
>     Vizoso<tomeu at sugarlabs.org <mailto:tomeu at sugarlabs.org>> wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>> Hi,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> would like to propose a meeting to talk about how
>     deployments can
>     >>>>> provide better feedback and how we can process it so
>     developers and
>     >>>>> the rest of Sugar Labs can prioritize their work accordingly.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> How does it sound?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Thanks,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Tomeu
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> --
>     >>>>> «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and
>     using Sugar.
>     >>>>> What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David
>     >>>>> Farning
>     >>>>> _______________________________________________
>     >>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>     >>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>     >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Alas, this is the sort of mindset we are working with:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>> Walter,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> We have continued working closely with the pilot school and have
>     >>>>> gotten a lot of insight into what the teachers want/need.
>     Right now
>     >>>>> our calendar is pretty full so joining IRC meetings isn't really
>     >>>>> feasible.  We will, however, pass on requests when it seems like
>     >>>>> there's a demand for something to help make the Sugar more
>     >>>>> relevant in the classroom.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I hope that there will be more useful information come out
>     of the
>     >>>>> NSF funded ICAC (Integrating Computing Across the Curriculum)
>     >>>>> grant that we are a part of.  It will disseminate
>     information related
>     >>>>> to findings in the schools and we'll be glad to let you know in
>     >>>>> advance when publications become available.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Not convinced that better reporting tools are going to help with
>     >>>> attitudes such as this. We need a way to get past the deployment
>     >>>> gatekeepers and the academics and talk directly with teachers and
>     >>>> students.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> -walter
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>> _______________________________________________
>     >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>     >>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>     >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     > What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David
>     > Farning
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