[IAEP] The last Sugar XO

[Claudia Urrea]

Gerald.. good to hear from you!! I think your idea is great.. I imagine
something like learning plans JAM, like the ones developers host. I will
support you on that!!

I also agree with Edward, they don't need to work alone. The greatest
experience may be a combination on teachers and some volunteers who would be
willing to help them with technical/practical stuff... I am up for it!!
Where do you imagine this?

Yama..  always impressed by your capacity to read and reply to
conversations!! :)
Hope things will be ok!

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:

> They won't have to get going completely on their own. There are more
> of us who barge in everywhere and offer help. I have been wanting to
> have many conversations with teachers for some time now. You can let
> teachers know that some of us are willing to help create Sugar-based
> lesson plans and software for any topic in any subject they teach, or
> to answer any question about teaching or learning with XOs and Sugar.
> We have several good Wiki pages for people starting out, depending on
> their interests and needs.
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 19:49, Yama Ploskonka <yamaplos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Your question was to Claudia, but one of the many ways that endear people
> to
> > me is how quickly I barge in others' conversations :-)
> >
> > One suggestion:  if they want to connect, don't stop them! let them
> connect,
> > please!
> >
> > There's a few semi-defunct email lists in English, for example Educators
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/educators
> > which were meant to have this kind of exchanges.  If any of them speak
> > Spanish, please invite them to Sur, their presence would be very welcome
> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur
> >
> > They may have to get going by themselves at first, as we get to encourage
> > other teachers to come in.  They can feel pioneers that way, and that is
> > good, for my experience with lists is that it can take quite a while to
> get
> > the dynamics of communication to become self-sustaining.  I guess the
> people
> > from Quebec could also be in this, and those from Birmingham, and maybe
> even
> > some almost lost tribes in San Antonio and elsewhere, that might just
> need
> > something like this to start moving.
> >
> > And of course they may come into IAEP itself.
> >
> > Good initiative, please don't give up!
> >
> > BTW, thanks for your comment, Claudia.  It seems that the situation I was
> > concerned about might just hold long enough that it is no longer a
> problem.
> > 6 more days!
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Gerald Ardito <gerald.ardito at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Claudia,
> >>
> >> I have been thinking about trying to write a grant to host a conference
> >> for teachers. The goals would be similar to the programming blitzes
> earlier
> >> on, where the teachers come together and create best practices, lesson
> >> plans, tips and techniques, etc.
> >>
> >> I think the social piece is critical. We expect the students using
> >> Sugar/XOs to be social; the same is true, in my experience, of the
> teachers.
> >> At least the ones I am working with are really looking forward to
> connecting
> >> with other teachers.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> Gerald
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Claudia Urrea <callaurrea at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I do believe that Ceibal presents a great opportunity to do great
> things.
> >>> It is a great opportunity... I believe we all want to be given the
> >>> opportunity to contribute.
> >>>
> >>> The best way to get people to appropriate technology is to have them
> use
> >>> it in powerful ways. Yes, more documents are needed, but focusing only
> in XO
> >>> and Sugar, and expect students and children to get comfortable as a
> strategy
> >>> to get them to do the good things is not going to happen.
> >>>
> >>> Teachers more than students need to good examples.. some have to do
> with
> >>> specific activities, and others with concepts that can be understood
> and
> >>> learned by using different activities. Creating examples that are
> always
> >>> part of a practical experience is good... even when introducing a
> particular
> >>> feature of the XO, or an activity.
> >>>
> >>> Yama.. i like your article in olpcnews!
> >>>
> >>> Claudia
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:41, Yamandu Ploskonka <yamaplos at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Yesterday I spent way too much time trying to figure out the
> different
> >>>> > press
> >>>> > articles and opinion pieces in the internet around the delivery of
> the
> >>>> > "ceibalita" # 396.727, the "last" in Uruguay
> >>>> >
> >>>> > the main thing: Congratulations!
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed.
> >>>>
> >>>> > the main thing: it's not enough
> >>>> >
> >>>> > It is clear that the LATU team headed by Ing. Brechner has done an
> >>>> > almost
> >>>> > incredible job, and even though there are excellent teachers there
> >>>> > "giving
> >>>> > us lessons" internationally, even though there are highly dedicated
> >>>> > volunteers, the use of these machines in the classroom is not a
> solved
> >>>> > matter.
> >>>> > Even if the most extreme opinions (both ends) are fruit of political
> >>>> > interests, it is getting more and more clear that there is a lot of
> >>>> > work to
> >>>> > be done to make the XOs really a useful feature of the classroom
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I say we need to focus on what is easy, to gain buy in by the
> majority
> >>>> > of
> >>>> > teachers
> >>>> >
> >>>> > when using the XO in class is easier for the teacher than giving
> class
> >>>> > without the XO, we will have won
> >>>>
> >>>> Then we know how to win. I am proposing a guide for teachers on how to
> >>>> help students learn the XO, Sugar, and everything else with a minimum
> >>>> of effort and a maximum of results. Then, as Brian Berry has pointed
> >>>> out, we will need 10,000 topic modules with lesson plans, for every
> >>>> school subject at every age, translated into more than 100 languages.
> >>>> I have a plan for that, too, which I will tell you about later.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let's start with the XO and Sugar. When we can get teachers and
> >>>> students comfortable with all of the features of the XO and Sugar in
> >>>> general, and with certain essential activities, we will be able to
> >>>> turn them loose on the Internet on any topic consisting primarily of
> >>>> information. The harder topics are skills such as math, the arts, and
> >>>> languages, where it is not enough to know. You must be able to _do_.
> >>>> But put that aside, for the moment, along with the learning modules.
> >>>> Let us think about what is required to get basic understanding and
> >>>> competence on an XO with Sugar.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been collecting the principal obstacles, which are listed at
> >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.og/go/The_Undiscoverable. We need to think
> about
> >>>> the order imposed by dependencies, and put together a sequence of
> >>>> lessons covering all of these. I'm ready to get to it, and you are
> >>>> welcome to join in.
> >>>>
> >>>> > I may be wrong, and opinions are welcome
> >>>> >
> >>>> > meanwhile, my article
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/last_xo_laptop_olpc_uruguay.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks. I've started reading it.
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
> >>>> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
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> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
> http://www.earthtreasury.org/
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