[IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc//rpms/plymouth/F-11/plymouth.spec?view=markup

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* Thu Oct 23 2008 Ray Strode <rstrode at redhat.com> 0.6.0-0.2008.10.23.1
- Add patch from Charlie to align progress bar to milestones during boot up
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this article has useful info:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_plymouth&num=1


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 19:40, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>
>> Gary C Martin wrote:
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose <fgrose at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot
>>>>> Activities for
>>>>> Learners: Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys,
>>>>> others, even
>>>>> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.
>>>>> Learners
>>>>> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up
>>>>> spots,
>>>>> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all
>>>>> sorts of
>>>>> things about the system, the different tools, and of course,
>>>>> designate one
>>>>> sequence to display on the next boot.
>>>>
>>>> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity
>>>> icons?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to
>>> confusion
>>> (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre-generating boot
>>> graphics at shutdown).
>>>
>>> There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of
>>> cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being
>>> one –
>>> and boot UI feedback utility :-)
>>>
>>> Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/
>>> keyboard
>>> checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it could be of
>>> real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each stage so
>>> you'd
>>> have an idea for what really might be going on (or where a boot/
>>> hardware
>>> problem was) – but realistically that's more of a long term UI
>>> opportunity**.
>>>
>>> ** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is
>>> triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually
>>> indicate success of?
>>
>> Sorry, I'm not exactly sure *when* it gets triggered. What I can
>> tell you from looking at the tarball is that there are also other
>> themes, which contain a different number of .png files. For example,
>> there's one, that contains 32 progress and 19 throbber .png files.
>> So I guess plymouth adjusts what gets displayed to the number of
>> images. I suppose there's one event which triggers the change from
>> showing the progress to the throbber files, but I'm not sure, what
>> it is. From my experience, the throbber files are shown rather late
>> in the boot process, shortly before logging in.
>
> Thanks understood, I think getting clever with the progress icons
> indicating real boot events is pushing the boat out a little too far
> just now. I was digging about for plymouth guides or instructions for
> 'creatives' and there is almost nothing I could find except a README
> and the source code. A real quick skim gave me the impression that the
> plymouthd daemon does the main work, and then you go lace your
> relevant/desired start-up scripts with plymouth commands letting
> plymouthd know some progress state had passed.
>
> One quick note, I'm on a MacBook Pro here so can only test Soas using
> VirtualBox. I think it's only ever showing the 'text' boot animation
> mode for me (black screen with blue/stripy progress bar at bottom with
> the word Soas at the right end). Just wanted to mention this as it
> means I can't see what you have done with the boot already, and can't
> tinker about and test this for real myself.
>
>> Ray Strode (halfline in #fedora-devel) is one of the developers and
>> has been really helpful with regard to my questions when hacking the
>> logo into plymouth. He might know.
>
> Thanks, will keep that in mind.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> --Sebastian
>>
>>> Regards
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>>> -walter
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Walter Bender
>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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